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26 Mar 2010

Islamic protestors force evacuation of ILGA conference participants in Surabaya

Most of the conference's participants left their hotel the same night after dozens of protesters from hardline Islamic groups staked out the hotel and conference venue for hours on Friday. Sylvia Tan reports from Surabaya.  

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Today, March 26, was to be the start of the fourth regional conference of the Asia chapter of the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Intersex Association (ILGA). The conference had however already run into problems on Tuesday after news of it made the front page of a local newspaper.

The local media had widely reported that the police had refused to issue permits after hardline Islamic organisations vehemently denounced the conference and vowed to ensure the event was truly cancelled, the Jakarta Globe reported. Surabaya is the capital of East Java province and Indonesia's second-largest city.

An estimated 50 to 60 members of conservative Indonesian Islamic groups on Friday arrived at the hotel where many conference participants were staying. Organisers had earlier announced that the conference, which was to be held at the Mercure hotel Friday through Sunday, has been officially cancelled although informal meetings were held on Friday morning in several guestrooms at Oval hotel. Many conference participants who were supposed to stay at the Mercure were transferred to Oval hotel after a 20-strong crowd had protested outside the Mercure on Thursday.


Clockwise from left: Co-Secretaries-General ILGA Gloria Careaga and
Renato Sabbadini, ILGA communication officer Stephen Barris; with members
of ILGA's communications team in Asia: Sass Sasot, Prof. Douglas Sanders
and Jennifer Josef at a meeting in the hotel lobby.
All photos by Sylvia Tan.


Conference participants reading a newspaper report of the conference at lunch,
right: ILGA Asia board member Eva Lee of Beijing-based Common Language

Conference participants, who were in the middle of lunch in the hotel lobby at about 1pm on Friday, were abruptly told by organisers to return to their rooms as they had received word that protesters were on their way to the hotel.


Members of various radical groups arriving at Oval hotel at 1.20pm.
All photos by Sylvia Tan.

Shortly after, about two dozen men arrived at the hotel in several minivans. A number of them waited outside the main entrance while others who appeared to be the leaders of the protesting groups came into the hotel and were received in the lobby as staff laid out two rows of chairs.


According to local sources, the men are believed to be from conservative and hard-line Islamic groups including the Indonesian Council of Ulemas (MUI), Indonesia's top Muslim clerical body; Islamic Defender Front (FPI), a local extremist group that is known for violent tactics; and the Hizb ut-Tahrir Indonesia (HTI), a local chapter of a worldwide network of the same name that is believed to be very active in a number of countries including the United Kingdom despite being banned by many governments.

Conference participants were strongly advised by organisers to remain in their rooms as members of the hardline groups were in the lobby and said to be walking along the hotel corridors.


Police outside the hotel at 3.25pm. All photos by Sylvia Tan.

At about 5.40pm, from the window of a third floor room which overlooked the hotel’s main entrance, several other participants counted some 30 motorcycles that had trickled into the hotel’s carpark in the past four hours. At about the same time, the Islamic call to prayer was clearly audible from a nearby mosque.

At about 7pm, organisers gathered participants in a room and said that they had received information that not only would protesters return in greater numbers the next morning but they might be armed.


A group meeting to discuss options; centre: Joel Bedos,
Secretary-General, International Day Against Homophobia and Transphobia.
This image has been intentionally blurred to protect the identity of local participants.

The hardline groups had not only demanded for the conference to be cancelled but for attendees to leave the country.

A participant who was outside the hotel reported seeing at least dozens of protesters three blocks away from the hotel at 5pm.

At about 8pm, the number of protesters outside the hotel had thinned considerably and by 10.30pm, at least half of the estimated 80 or so participants had left the hotel with all their personal belongings.

There were conflicting reports as to whether the police was willing to guarantee the safety of the participants should they remain in the hotel as some local activists shared that it was not beyond members of radical groups to conduct “raids” of hotel rooms as it had occurred in another city.


 Sass Sasot (Manila, Philippines) with Eva Lee (Beijing, China) who's
taking a breather after having spent the last hour going door to door
to inform participants of the latest developments. All photos by Sylvia Tan.

Poedjianti Tan, the head organiser from Surabaya-based Gaya Nusantara, the longest-running gay rights advocacy group in the country and host of the conference told Fridae that she did not expect the situation to unfold the way it did.

“I’m very shocked,” she paused as she regained her breath after having been juggling calls on her mobile phone and the room phone non-stop for several hours as her colleagues and her worked to find participants alternative accommodation for the night and secure transportation while negotiating with the police.

She said that the police had already given their approval for the conference to be held however the document bore the wrong date. The document was to be amended by the police and collected early in the week but before they could do it news of the conference made the front-page of a local newspaper on Tuesday.

“The problem is the newspaper articles,” she said. Surabaya as she knows it has been tolerant of LGBT-related issues and events. The city has seen three annual International Day Against Homophobia and Transphobia events with the last being held in a public park with entertainment provided by gay and transgendered performers. The Q(ueer) Film Festival had also toured Surabaya annually since 2007 holding screenings of LGBT-themed films at public cinemas without incident.

Although Indonesia has the world's largest Muslim population, it is a secular state and homosexual acts are not punishable by law.

 

The reporter's stay was sponsored by the Mercure Surabaya.

Indonesia » Jawa Timur » Surabaya

Reader's Comments

1. 2010-03-27 11:56  
Couldn't it be more manifest that the police approval document bearing the wrong date and the breakout of the newspaper headline are such an inconvenient coincidence? I strongly doubt it.
Protest from any hardline group could lead to a life threat. I wish all participants of the ILGA conference be safe and stay alert in every step of their way now.
2. 2010-03-27 12:12  
Jeez... I wish I had been born a muslim. It must be great to be so perfect.

Tell me again how you spell the word 'hypocrite'
3. 2010-03-27 12:44  
I giggled in agreement denseaus!
You said it right alright!
4. 2010-03-27 12:45  
From the first time I saw ILGA chose Surabaya as a conference venus. I already said...No...No....BIGGGG mistake...VERY VERY BIG MISTAKE.

Don't spend your pink dollar to any of this Muslim fucked country anymore, NEVER !!!!

I really ponder, how gay Muslim can reconcile with this sick religion??

For Christian, Anti-gay is not from Jesus, but from Old testaments and Paul of Rome.

But for Muslim???
Comment edited on 2010-03-27 12:48:54
5. 2010-03-27 13:15  
i can't believe they choose Indonesia for the conference of ILGA...i can say stupid choice. did you know Indonesia is the largest muslim ppl in the world???? OFF COZ the police will refused to issue permits...there are hardline islamic organisations...dont play with them.
6. 2010-03-27 13:49  
Interesting challenge for the Gay Community; how to respond? Boycot Bali?!
7. 2010-03-27 14:23  
As spotted in the newspaper headline, 'Lesbi' sounds like a fashion label! "It's gorgeous! It's yours! It's Lesbi!" ;-)

(Hey, I'm too tired to wade in with one of my more usual halfway thought out comments!)
8. 2010-03-27 14:28  
so sad
I note that some christian religion are also anti gay.
What wrong with them all . It love their neighbour is the general theme of both christains and muslims.... some times I just give up
mmmmmm
9. 2010-03-27 15:24  
I agree with goodvenus - it was a mistake to host such event in Indonesia - I don't mean any offence to the Islamic community whatsoever - I think it was a bad choice due to the fact that some radical groups which happen to belong the the muslim community in this country would def. be the ones engaging in the above article-related actions. I don't even know if I'm making sense - argh lack of sleep lol
10. 2010-03-27 15:27  
I am all for gay rights but I think the ILGA has made a major mistake in choosing that location. It's like walking into a lion's den and expect not to be attacked.

This is all I have to say to all the Muslim extremists, bring your extremist activities to Australia and I will personally kick your asses.
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14. 2010-03-27 16:39  
Why didn't held in bali? I guess only bali, the one province in indonesia that can accept all the deferences.. Coz moeslim in bali are minority, so they can't interfere there
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16. 2010-03-27 17:15  
17. 2010-03-27 17:17  
So much for following the teachings of the Koan and Muhammed! Demostrations like this give the majority of Muslims around the world who are kind and decent people a poor image. As with so many groups today, a small group of protesters give the majority a bad name and sterotype them to the world. So pitiful!
18. 2010-03-27 17:18  
Bali is too expensive. This is not a rich and expensive conference. Also, the organizers of this conference, GAYa Nusantara, are from Surabaya. So I guess they thought that it was better to stay close to their HQ.

Besides, the conference was about Human Rights. If it was held in Bali, it would just strengthen the portrayal of a hedonistic lifestyle and makes the work of LGBT organization in Indonesia much more difficult if it was portrayed that way.
Comment edited on 2010-03-27 17:19:10
19. 2010-03-27 17:31  
oh well, im chinese-indonesian, it was a really big mistake to host ILGA event in here...
that hardline muslim extremist (not all muslim people) ruins everything in indonesia, not only for gays/lesbians.
yeah, sadly but true...
i wish that stupid f*ckin hardline extremist just dont exist in indonesia!!!!
20. 2010-03-27 18:40  
lol
21. 2010-03-27 18:42  
I'm so sorry to uncomfortable in surabaya. I live in surabaya. I'm chiness in surabaya-indonesia. I think thats if u have decided to have a confrc. In surabaya thats a big mistake. Just like vanilla_86 said thats extremist muslim (not all muslim, cause all of us in indonesia know thats almost gay in here are disscreet andd gay muslim are not just a few member in here) ruin everythings. They have them idologi, they have of them perseption of anythings, everythings with only they thinking.
just not like another muslims in here, or peoples in here. I think that just not in surabaya, they have a member in around of indonesia (may be in world). So.. I think bali its the answer for this confrc, but.. If u would like to vocation andd do some social activities (andd perhaps thats u log in thats in schedule) I think surabaya its a great place. Once a gain I would like to say, I fell so sorry for un comfortable in surabaya.
22. 2010-03-27 18:42  
I could blame the newspaper articles. Which is... Hmm, who's leak that.
Three annual event. The fourth is cancelled, something is wrong.

I am muslim, and I feel sad (and mad too) about a few muslim people protest about the event.

Let God judge us for Loving, and let God judge them for hating.
23. 2010-03-27 20:19  
i was saddened by this story - the hard extremists winning again. But saddened further by suggestions of boycotting Indonesia or even Bali (such a kind place). Don't forget the millions of gay Indonesians - they don't need a boycott, they need support and solidarity. I think the next event should be thousands of gay and lesbians in Surabaya. And it should recerive international media before the thugs move in. That'll trap the police!
24. 2010-03-27 22:57  
No oppression, no movement.
Bravo to ILGA, you have chosen the right place to send the message out loud.
25. 2010-03-27 23:22  
go to Nepal instead ...since they are promoting Gay Weddings etc ...I presumed they will be glad to host LGBT conferences , workshop, gossip-shop etc etc ....and others will regret the absence of pink money ...
26. 2010-03-27 23:30  
Muslims really aren't too keen on the whole "live and let live" premise at all, are they?
27. 2010-03-27 23:40  
This is why alot of countries like ours are wary of any Muslim Immigrants. No one likes to be portrayed as terrorist bombers but if the explosives strapped to the chest fit.......

Sorry but I cant respect any religion that encoruages hate mongering and self serving agendas and disguising it as 'god's will' as if an all powerfull and all knowing being would be just as small minded as themselves.
28. 2010-03-28 00:05  
I think a religion is really a personal matter for every person. And there are always some religious fundamentalists in every country. Surabaya is never a wrong choice. It just happened that this time, the Islamic groups are at their angst. But it's not on a daily basis we encounter such hatred. I just wish everyone should think positively and not further discriminating any city or country or people just because one bad incident. I'm myself a Chinese-Indonesian who happened to organize the Q! (for queer) Film festival in Surabaya for the last 3 years. and it went well... Cheers!
29. 2010-03-28 00:43  
Religion is just another way to organise ignorant thugs. Ignorance spread with violence (or threat of violence) will simply contribute to the further dumbing down of the population.

I read somewhere that in Islam's golden age, when it was a tolerance religion, there was great cultural and scientific progress in the middle east. As soon as it turned fundamentalist and intolerant, the middle east went into cultural decline.

I believe this is happening now in the US where fundi christians are spreading their own version of hatred and intolerance. It will happen in Malaysia and Indonesia too if they continue down the road of fundi islamisation.

It does not help those who are caught up in these "civilisations" - but in the long run, I think they will decline. Intolerant, conformist societies will not survive.
30. 2010-03-28 00:46  
It should be the pink dollars effect action for the surabaya.
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32. 2010-03-28 01:18  
I think those god-fearing fool didn't pray enough to god to halt the event, or god didn't border their prayer, so they show almighty is not mighty enough. ;p
33. 2010-03-28 01:58  
Indonesia just another cursed country... what a pity, rich beautiful country occupied and running by clowns, joker, and idiots.
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35. 2010-03-28 02:29  
oh, we hear about what the gay activist human rights will sued the police.

think it twice, gay in indonesia isnt illegal, but may be after this they can make it illegal. gee.
thats why indonesia always left behind. because they let all this people control the country. and all they know is, polygamy.
36. 2010-03-28 02:30  
trust me I know this is will happened. geez, but at least they're blessed that this muslim people didnt burn them. we know very well, how are they act. they like what we call, human barbecue.

I asked my partner. she's from surabaya, and she says, the GAYA was first founded in java, may be thats why they held it in surabaya.

being Gay in Indonesia is not illegal, but even the government are scared with the MUI (the islamic organisations), oh please, who are they, and why did the government let them to be so controlling. they arent even educated.

we need to ask this MUI permission to sell food, we need to ask this MUI for this and that. oh please. remember when the 2012 movie just released? this MUI was requesting the cinema companies not to play it on screen. meanwhile, there's dozens of indonesian sexual movies around.

and believe me, this is one thing why I hate to be Indonesian and live in Indonesia. those 'narrow minded' muslim is just too sickening.
37. 2010-03-28 02:40  
just as expected...religion religion and religion...they're using it so much.wonder if it ever stops.i'm getting bored...can't they have more scientifically stuff to back up their reasons?nope ain't any scientific backup...science kinda supports the LGBTIQA population but not "religion".so they use religion to be in control.i don't see any right use of religion nowadays. it is all about personal gains...and that is demonic perhaps...*wand is out to spell*


*YAWNNNNNNN*
Comment edited on 2010-03-28 02:52:08
38. 2010-03-28 03:32  
The first at all we must train Indonesian and people around the world that "Relegion is a choice but sexual orientation is not". Christian and Islam can't put their bible on the head of others.
39. 2010-03-28 04:07  
My viewpoint is dat "communication" is da foremost key of all..

Religion is what people believe.. and being "Gay" is apparently the same thing that is what we believe as being who we are..

We are the one who have this (gay) feeling, not them (who are str8)..

We can't force them to understand what we believe and from my personal understanding, Islam never teach the follower to force other to believe what they believe.. They do have a duty to share their believe of what they consider it as "the right guide in life".. but if u dont wanna follow what Islam believe, they SHOULDN'T force, harm or hurt your life.. UNLESS, you disturb and harm Islam community themselves..

What Im trying to say above is that, don't blame Islam itself.. It's just the people who deal with it.. Juz like the bombing case.. Islam never teach that, but just because the people who did that are conservative muslim, we then blamed Islam.. That's really wrong.. It's a crazy extremist people who miscontrued what Islam taught.. If you really want to know, "Islam never teach its believer to do something wrong for a good reason".. It's for the reason that everyone who has HEART and lives in this world should accept the truth that doing the wrong thing for the right reason is still A WRONG THING.. and therefore, judging something is wrong without understanding the real problem for what we believe is right, is also A WRONG THING..

Please.. don't response a wrong thing with someting wrong.. coz we wont solve the problem..

Media sometimes tries to embroider or exaggerate something to provoke fights among different believers.. and therefore, understanding each others should resolve the problem.. if we appreciate what they believe, I'm sure they will appreciate of who we are.. and I'm certainly sure that we can live together in peace.. =)
40. 2010-03-28 04:26  
Indonesia not ready to open.....actually many many gays & lesbians in Indonesia and they are my friend muslim....but dare not to open because the Muslim department is too strong in Indonesia and they can get many support from our society which majority dont understand anything.

Bali 80% majority Hindusm so no problem with Gay, lesbian, trans....even the muslim people stay in Bali is OK to us being gay or not because gay is just about our sex preference....not to judge in religion, race, gender,rich, poor, old, young, military, married or....may be King or a President could be a gay....so let we be honest to everyone and talk......
41. 2010-03-28 05:47  
Those people think that gay = hedonistic lifestyle. Gay is only about sex, sex, and sex. While some might think that it's true and it's not a problem, but for those people, that's actually the problem. Living under a strict rule where free sex consider as a sin and so is homosexuality, make this subject becomes so sensitif for them *sighs*
42. 2010-03-28 07:02  
well another country thats not civilised indonesia that is!
thank goodness i live in canada where gays are completely integrated in society with complete acceptance!
43. 2010-03-28 07:02  
well another country thats not civilised indonesia that is!
thank goodness i live in canada where gays are completely integrated in society with complete acceptance!
44. 2010-03-28 08:13  
serve them right for choosing the totally wrong venue to conduct such meetings.

religion has got nothing to do with gay and lesbian thingy. Its the person sexual preferences that matters.

Danseaus, your comment sounds very harsh to muslim community by the fact there are many gays here are muslim too. It doesnt matter which religion you are, by all mean, all religion is against same sex concept, so dont just make some random comment. Unless you dont have any faith and belief, thats your problem.
45. 2010-03-28 09:20  
@ Cozyboy,
"Religion is what people believe.. and being "Gay" is apparently the same thing that is what we believe as being who we are.. "

Right in the words "being gay" tell that "Gay is not to Believe". So, there is a big difference between "believe in relegion" and "to be gay". No body say "be relegion", don't you?

And "we don't believe we are gay" but "we are gay".
46. 2010-03-28 10:30  
please dont blame...islam..n our religion...im openly..gay..in malaysia...n im muslim...

rite now...gay muslim in malaysia...is increasing..rapidly...n our society....r..slowly...try to accept who we r....but it takes..long time..


im not surprise....that incident..happen in indonesia..coz...they have a lot of...extrimist muslim.....
47. 2010-03-28 11:56  
To all of you fuckwits (and I dont care if you're GWM or GAM) who blame the fate of the ILGA conference on the fact that they chose a MUSLIM country this year, try investing some of your pink dollars into some additional brain cells, common sense and a sense of respectfulness for others in a public conference. You're giving the rest of us decent and smart gay men a bad name with your ignorance and Islamophobia.

You're fools if you think these petulent nutjobs who hate and fear us don't exist in countries like China, India, Israel, or even USA, be it religious fundamentist groups or systematic political censorship by the government.
48. 2010-03-28 12:43  
Leave out the religion bashing and concentrate more on the crack up factors that influence on bigotry. No matter what country you going to be at, there will always be the countless amount of stupid. And until now, indonesia is going back in the middle ages. Gone are the days of moving forward.
49. 2010-03-28 15:34  
The news itself is being condemned by most of the people in Indonesia, believe that not Indonesians are like those so-called FPI people. Those who acts like God and disgrace His name by using it as a way to force others in being free in expression.

My best wish and prayers to the committee and participant of the event, I am sure that it was a very tiring and shocking day. Given the fact they need to face those barbaric people.
50. 2010-03-28 17:22  
i doubt some Asian countries are ready for this.

I think if they tried it in Singapore, some christians would def be up in arms doing the same thing.

51. 2010-03-28 17:35  
I hate religous extremists of any persuasion. It just seems that the muslims have more violent nutters than all the rest rolled up together. I went to Malaysia once and the whole religiousness of it really gave me the creeps. No way I'll be going to Indonesia any time soon.
52. 2010-03-29 01:24  
SILENT MOMENT! I had accepted my self being a gay and I am Happy. No one has right to judge my sex orientation. I am king of my Body and Mind
53. 2010-03-29 06:44  
Those who run this conference in Indonesia are so freaking brave! The best luck to them!
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55. 2010-03-29 07:03  
the negative perception of homosexuals that feed conservative religious fervor can be laid firmly at the feet of westerners, even though in more secular western nations homosexuals have aquired greater freedoms they largely through their abondoment and disregard of good sexual behaviour and the wanton deliberate over sexualisation of their public events due to the ill conceived 'queering' agenda of the extremist lobby have created a global impression that does no favors for struggling rights movements in developing nations, if you were were a Government or religious leader in a poor country and you see the images and statistics of sexual diseases coming out of western countries you would probably be appalled and you would be resistent to the corruption coming to your land, yes corruption! the Gay world needs to clean up it's act especially through the misuse of the internet as it has negatively influenced the behaviour of Homosexual men globally and created an ugly sexual culture that is playing into the hands of all religious conservatives.
56. 2010-03-29 08:58  
next time come to Shanghai, you can even you my home and the food will be great too... I have room for everyone and the World Expo is happening here too
57. 2010-03-29 13:31  
by the way, what does the conference actually do? what gets accomplished there? why so many foreign people there instead of local Asians? never heard of this organization before

in other news, is Alice in the new Wonderland 3D flick lesbian?
58. 2010-03-29 13:32  
Honestly it is sad to read what other people commented about our country in this forum regarding of what happened recently to ILGA seminar or gathering or whatever that was supposed to be held in Surabaya last week. I just think the decision made to do that here in my country was a suicide, because rarely everybody here can accept openly gay existence, regardless of any kinds of ethnics or religions or anything.
I'm gay and I am having a wonderful life here, no complaints so far, it's just US who are supposed to be able to adjust to what most people perceive in life in non-gay countries, because we are minority, and there are certain issues we can not or try to break. There are lot other countries in the world, who said they can accept open gay life, but there are still some who are not comfortable around gay people, so to my opinion, it is THE PEOPLE who we are dealing with, NOT the whole country.
So hopefully everyone here is not jumping into conclusion of what our country is in general. There's always room for gay people and we should make the best out of it, according to local situation, culture and acceptance of our existence.
PEACE !
59. 2010-03-29 19:52  
Woah kinda scary to be that situation.

Do they know that there will be a protest of this sort in the first place? Could they have cancelled it or change venue?

60. 2010-03-29 21:27  
Sad but predictable . Come to our city , Bangkok , we only fight about fugitive billionaires here , not about sex :o)
Buddhism is a teaching , not a religion so there's no fear neither sexual frustration and insecurity as you find in Muslim and Christian fundamentalism.
61. 2010-03-29 22:58  
Bad as they are, it's not just the muslim extremists that are violent; this is in the British press today abut Christian terrorists in the US:

-"FBI agents arrested at least three suspected members of a Christian militia group during raids across three states over the weekend.The raids took place in Michigan, Indiana and Ohio and were targeted at the Hutaree group which claims to be preparing for a battle against 'an Anti-Christ'."

Also reported is a mass slaughter in the Congo by "The Lord's Resistance Army", a Ugandan terror group.




62. 2010-03-30 04:27  
is hard to be accept about gay life in indonesia and also wrong place , and i think beter in bali or jakarta more beter , i have fell so bad with this situation , even im muslim but i dont want to be like this .... because in indonesia mostly muslim people and i know they dont accept with gay . so we have to know it about this. i think surabaya not the place for conference..... thanks
63. 2010-03-30 04:50  
I am muslim and from indonesia but i dont agree with this case..... untuk golongan muslim atau organinasi muslim apapun tidak seharusnya melakukan hal seperti ini , ini masalah individu manusia dan mereka punya hak untuk itu .... thanks .
64. 2010-03-30 06:20  
Well, maybe now all my Muslim friends will stop calling me a hypocrite after denouncing Islam.
Look in the mirror guys.
65. 2010-03-31 16:39  
Chaqa: At least you can denounce Islam.. Not these ppl living in islamic countries or countries claiming to be democratic but is still hard-lined by islam.

The sad thing is, Islam is not a bad religion. It's just the people who choose to practice it to the extremity. Just like Christianity. Funny thing is, these are the only two religions that declare its greatness in mass numbers and yet, they brought more devastation to the world than any other. It's sad to see people living in this century back-tracking their mentality. When will people start learning that religious books are part history/part spiritual guidance?

Then again, they are coined as extremists for a reason.
Comment edited on 2010-03-31 16:41:01
66. 2010-03-31 19:37  
I've read every comments made by the Gays here ...

it's very offensive and insulting when some of you here blame the 'religion' i.e Islam for everything ... a major misconception ...

yes, i am a Muslim gay but i don't see the religion or any other religions as the cause of this .. ITS THE EXTREMIST PEOPLE, NOT THE RELIGION ... people can use the religion's name in order to do their selfish needs and point of view ...

Its hurtful when some of you here blame the religion .... when they know very well that every religion will always teach the rite and good ones .... i believe in that

pls don't be prejudice in making statement when you don't know whats really happening... you are only making it worst and divide the world ....

although i disagree about the IGLA ...

67. 2010-03-31 21:15  
Its not about the religion or the conference, It's just been blowing up by the media and as we know that media can affect the reader's mind and I believe indonesians arent ready for such news. I hope next time will be better. I think that making a consultations forum, like sharing experiences and the difficulties of being homosexual is far more better than having a conference especially to the LGBT who live in eastern cultural country :)
68. 2010-04-01 02:11  
in addition to my previous comments, we do have Q film festival every year in Jakarta and it has been amazingly bringing lots of enthusiasm and no such things happen like those in Surabaya, so please don't generalise bunch of people into a whole country with the same perception. that would be all.
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