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22 Nov 2007

no sex party going on at penang fitness centre, say those arrested

Following the recent raid of a fitness centre in Penang where 37 men were arrested, it has emerged that contrary to media reports, there was no "sex party" in progress when police raided the establishment. SH Lim gives readers an insight of the case and how the community has responded.

"I did nothing wrong," Eric Goh wrote to PT Foundation, a community-based organisation providing HIV/AIDS education and sexuality awareness and empowerment programmes, in Malaysia. Goh is one of the 37 - 35 Malaysians and two non-nationals - who was detained by the Malaysian police for two days.

A photo of the arrest that was published in The Star.
"Acting on a public tip-off," the police on Sunday, Nov 4, at about 7.30pm, raided G-Word Fitness Centre, in Penang the Associated Press reported. In the same article, it said that the police informed that it found "used condoms strewn all over the floor, seven tubes of lubrication jelly, 20 gay magazines, four pornographic VCDs and six boxes of new condoms." George Town Officer in Charge of Police District (OCPD) Asst Comm Azam Abd Hamid was quoted as saying that at the time of the raid "a sex party was in progress."

But not so according to Goh and some others.

"We were fully dressed when the police came in," Goh said in an email to the PLUPenang newslist that he and his UK friend were there for a quick workout before meeting his family for dinner but instead ended in the lockup "for two unforgettable humiliating and tragic nights." The detainees were released after signing a bond. Although the case is not closed at the time of publishing this article, observers say those arrested are unlikely to be charged.

One detainee informed that he and the others were sent to a lock-up, then to court before a magistrate and remanded for two days. "We were all put in handcuffs and chains like criminals," he said. Other detainees told of similar experiences.

"What we went through was beyond words. The humiliation, the verbal insults, striping to our underwear in a dirty and cold cell full of graffiti and bugs; shit and shower in the same place; handcuffed and chained even when we went to the toilet and while eating. Those with high blood pressure and diabetic problems were without medication for 48 hours," Goh added.

Help from the Community
Throughout this ordeal, some organisations and individuals stepped up to the plate working round the clock to help. PT Foundation was in contact with the Legal Aid Centre in Kuala Lumpur, and with people from PLUPenang. Darryl, P.H. Yap and Bern Chua contacted friends in Penang to find a lawyer to represent the detainees. Yap and Chua spent full days at the station and in the magistrates' court, liaising between those detained and the lawyer. P. H. Yap and his friends bought food and refreshments - reportedly paid for by the owner of G-Word - for the detainees.

"I am sure many others lend a helping hand. I am very encouraged by their actions, and wish to thank them for their selfless community spirit," said Raymond Tai, Head of MSM Programme, PT Foundation.

Why the Raid?
A local newspaper, The Star, owned by the Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA), a national political party, quoted the police as saying that the raid was part of its ongoing "Ops Bersih (operation clean) aimed at keeping all types of vice activities in check."

Other reasons have however been posited. According to some people, the rather "harsh" treatment arose because the owner of G-Word Fitness Centre was not around and was not contactable during the raid. It was speculated that things might have turned out quite differently if the owner was there to smooth things over with the police.

Shanon Shah of Amnesty International Malaysia pointed out that "raids like this don't happen in isolation. One raid leads to another, and it's usually a political tactic to divert the people from more pressing issues of concern. The thing is, we have to keep an eye out."

The case is being closely watched by the gay community as well as local and international human rights organisations.

The Penal Code
Section 377 of Malaysia's Penal Code, which prohibits "carnal intercourse against the order of nature" and acts of "gross indecency," hangs like the proverbial sword of Damocles over the heads of gay men. Although the laws do not explicitly mention homosexuality or homosexual acts (after being amended in 1989 to be gender neutral), the laws are available as a tool to intimidate, harass, extort and exploit gay men and gay-friendly businesses. The attendant publicity - the potential outing - is that very thing which makes gay men vulnerable. The press too is not ashamed to exploit this vulnerability selling itself with sensational news.

There are no known cases of the laws being used against consenting adults, gay or straight, except in the controversial case of former Malaysian DPM Anwar Ibrahim who was convicted in 2000 for sodomy. The conviction was later reversed in 2004.

The Malaysian government's approach to Penal Code 377 is no different from the Singapore government's application of Section 377A of the Penal Code. Both governments continue to perpetuate prejudice and execute a law that unjustly discriminates and leaves a segment of the population vulnerable to exploitation. The Singapore government, after an open debate, has nonetheless proudly and publicly declared that anal intercourse between heterosexual couples is legal but not so for gay men. The Malaysian government says nothing but continues to invoke that code when dealing with gay men's sexuality.

In the context of AIDS prevention and outreach programmes, Raymond Tai of PT Foundation said: "This draconian Penal Code 377 continues to allow the authorities to drive gay-friendly saunas underground, operating as 'fitness centres,' 'spas,' etc. This in turn encourages extortions by enforcement officers and poses a big challenge for us at PTF to do safer sex outreach to these places." PTF's current recourse is to engage in closed-door discussions with government and enforcement officers so that PTF is able to take small practical steps to keep its community protected.

What Needs to be Done
Anal intercourse between consenting adults regardless of their sexual orientation must be decriminalised. Simply because the law is inhumane and unjust. There is no longer any justification for the discrimination of gay people and the criminalisation of the anal intercourse. With decriminalisation, the gay community would be less vulnerable to unreasonable searches and raids.

In the mean time, gay-focused and human rights organisations within and without country - PT Foundation, Suaram, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, women's groups and others - will need to engage with the civil society to widen the democratic space for Malaysians, where there is real respect for equality in a diverse society. Malaysians need to be educated more about their civil liberties and mobilised to stand up and speak out against discrimination of minorities. The socio-political climate needs to change before taking on Section 377.

At present, the local gay organisations lack a locally based organised response mechanism to manage situations like the raid on G-Word. PT Foundation advocates for more grassroots-based organisation to mobilise and is offering to train interested groups and volunteers in basic human rights, arrests and detention issues so that they can assist should more raids occur.

PT Foundation is seeking the Legal Aid Centre's advice on this matter, and encourage all those who are concerned to write in. PFT is also offering para-legal training to those who wish to volunteer their services, hiring staff and seeking volunteers for a number of programmes they are running, for details please check the web site and/or email ptf@ptfmalaysia.org.

Reader's Comments

1. 2007-11-22 20:34  
What with the level of crime in penang, I am amused by the level of 'thoroughness, efficiency and severity' which was used to 'apprehend' and arrest. And while the laws here do allow the authorities to DETAIN a person for up to two weeks pending investigations, the newspapers have been innaccurate in calling it an 'arrest' - An arrest requires investigations, gathering of evidence and for what crime is one being arrested for? Based on what evidence? Has the Registrar of Societies that provides governance and consults to the City Council over the issuance of licenses and permits for such establishments been informed or questioned to the activities of the club before the raid? The court has to issue such warrants. Was the alleged evidence gathered before or after the raid?

My heart goes out to the individuals who received such barbaric treatment. It is a truly sad day - when one realises that there are those who rape, murder and steal running around, and all whilst these true atrocities occur, the police force occupies itself chasing after homosexuals. All in the name of......? A nice little envelope of goodies from the proprietor of the fitness centre? A token opportunity/chance to persecute a group of society they deem disgusting?

When does it end?

2. 2007-11-22 23:05  
Typical KAMPONG mentality of a hypocritical islamic country. Consider themselves lucky they were not stoned to death if they were in some other middle east muslim countries.
Perhaps someone who claims to have a Masters.sss (zzz) of Bull Shit from the University of Kampong can justify these typical barbaric acts.

Be patient. Doesn't take long for the kampong serpent to crawl out of its Hole! It needs to feed on trash.:D
3. 2007-11-22 23:35  
i sympathise those who went through this ordeal. lets show our sympathy. lets join hands. hope this will never happen to anyone of us. tough being a plu

4. 2007-11-23 00:00  
don't blame any one if u do this in malaysia. just stop go malaysia, there is strong muslim place, remember remember think before u do funny actions in muslim place
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6. 2007-11-23 02:09  
To meadowland,

your comment is very racist, unfortunately,

I have been living in Malaysia for many years, and Its a wonderful country, Lovely people...

Besides, these things happen everywhere,

Just look at Singapore... and someother countries.

So, if we try to solve problems, its by pointing the mistakes, not with stupid comments on races and religions or whole nations.
7. 2007-11-23 02:43  
No one ask the ppl having sex in that center, if you really need it, y not u just bring ur partner to somewhere that is proper for sex....
8. 2007-11-23 02:48  
Ennui78 said it all. I just would like to add this was most likely a charm-campaign by the police. When police is unable to solve problems that truly affect people's lives, they will attempt to appease their image through publicity. This is excellent publicity for them which they can exploit. Somehow reminds me the pictures that Thai police takes with people they imprison, which are immediately in the next day's newspaper issue, and almost seem like a news conference with Britney Spears.
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10. 2007-11-23 04:16  

Dear Brothers & Sisters,

For years,there have been deplorable situation facing gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people in a number of countries around the world including Malaysia.And for years,I lived in a Muslim nation that was severely condemnatory of homosexual behavior. I know about anti-gay persecution from first hand experience.

Most of those who are persecuted never even get the chance to escape from their homeland. Many of them, especially the young, commit suicide rather than face a life of hellish torture,humiliation, imprisonment, and even execution.

Now, I want to do something to help people like this on a larger scale. It is time for local and international human rights groups to take a stand against homophobic violence, in the same way that they moved so firmly in the struggle against the evils of apartheid.

We need multiple approaches and strategies to be effective.What PTF said in this article is true, for people in Malaysia who need to be moderate in order to try to convince the govt to change. However, there is also the need for some other groups to stand up strongly and condemn the government's terrible actions without compromise. This is the role that you can do as an insider and me,as an outsider.

As an outsider,we can say things that PTF cannot do because they are there. So, yes, I think it would be very good to have an organization in Malaysia with a title like " Malaysian Coalition for Equality and Freedom" where we try to get both gay and non-gay (but pro-gay supportive) human rights activists to press from within, on both gay and non-gay human rights issues.

But for Malaysians who are outside of the country, we could have a more confrontive approach.WE can start something like CAMPAIGN TO BOYCOTT HOMOPHOBIC GOVERNMENTS movement.Then,we need to be very specific in the organization's
statement of purpose, saying that we are only going to focus on the absolute worst governments in the world.

Maybe say something like this:

Prejudice against homosexuals, bisexuals, transgender, and gender-nonconformist people is common in many nations. Though those nations still have so-called "sodomy laws" that criminalize homosexual behavior, in many cases governments are not currently using such laws to punish people. While we strongly favor the repeal of sodomy laws in all countries, and are adamently opposed to homophobic prejudice in general, this boycott is directed specifically against governments that are currently persecuting and/or imprisoning people on the basis of their same-sex sexual behavior and/or gender nonconformity.

The boycott will remain in effect until those governments change their policies, and governmentally-sanctioned persecution has ceased.

Economic pressure is effective in persuading governments to change, when reasoned arguments alone do not suffice.

Hit them in their pocketbook, where it hurts!!!

Please join me in a grassroots effort to build an international boycott against homophobic persecution.

** The power is in your hands to help your brothers and sisters in these countries, who have no power. The time to make a stand against injustice is now.

For more details,pls email me at:
11. 2007-11-23 07:01  
I find it interesting the words of Penal Code Section 377 "... "carnal intercourse against the order of nature" and acts of "gross indecency,". If Singapore thinks anal intercourse between a male and a female is natural then how can they use this section to prosecute male to male anal intercourse? And wouldn't a proper defence against the use of this section be to show that around the world in human and animals that homosexual acts are considered to be natural? Only in the backward thinking countries can it be considered anything less than natural. And even so, it is in an individuals 'order of nature' to engage in anal intercourse is it not?
12. 2007-11-23 07:51  
I think it is ok that we have a "all-male" or "men only" fitness centre under the condition of "No-Sex-On-Premises"

If you are being caught while having sex in that place well all I can say is that, the police did nothing wrong, and you are just bad luck!

If you wanna have sex, please go to somewhere else.
13. 2007-11-23 08:20  
I have an even better idea... Don't go to Malaysia and don't support them financially in any endeavor.
14. 2007-11-23 08:53  
that's right (post #12)...I support your idea to NEVER go to Malaysia; never to spend a single pink dollar in that country (including Singapore and MANY other cruel, homophobic governments)....I long ago added Malaysia to my list of places to avoid, even for business purposes. I hope ALL the gay bois and girls who who want to leave the oppression, exploitation, discrimination and criminilisation find a way to LEAVE that barbaric place.
15. 2007-11-23 09:11  
nellson2007 has a good idea. an immediate and world-wide Campaign AGAINST Homophobia, woven into the campaign FOR Equal Human Rights. A list of oppressive governments should be published on a website which is set-up to knit together like-minded people like us...(fridae.com probably isn't the best place for this).....a list from "worst to least-worst" places to stay away from...and then we begin to deploy overt and covert actions of NON-support: hit the oppressive governments, travel agents, airlines, hotel chains, retailers, ALL establishements around the world which do not support the goal of truely equal rights for all people, regardless of sexual preferences. If these oppressive governments and the hateful/homophobic "born again" Christians want a fight, they'll get one. There are over 200 million of us homos around the world. If we pulled together and organized our power, imagine what we could accomplish.
16. 2007-11-23 09:32  
and one last word: I suggest we all work our butts off...make as much money as we can....we must set our professional goals HIGHER than the rest of the hetero world, emass huge amounts of money, then use our wealth to bring about change. Let's be the very best at what we do in life (whether you're a hairdresser, crossdresser dress-designer or business executive)....we must set our personal goals much higher than the rest of the mediocre world...and then conquer it.
17. 2007-11-23 09:54  
You guys take it wrong again. I can reassure you that this has nothing to do with homophobia, penal code or what race running the country. (btw start from next year all non-chinese school (yes all) will have mandarin and tamil classes.)

This is a regular raid (they call it OPS as for operation) that the authority carry out on every other week at every other clubs and massage parlour. It happened that the very unfortunate weekend was GWorld. Mind you Gworld has been operating for so long and only now it was raided and how often you heard gay club in KL or penang making headlines in the news?

BTW, 48hours in jail applies to apprehended chinese female prostitutes from china, indonesian illlegal workers at construction site, patrons with positive drug urine test in club etc, or traditional massage center turn brothel.

Do you think that the straight community would shout at the top of their lungs or get UN help to take action on Malaysian government to stop these raid as the aforementioned activities are part of straight community culture?

Anyway, If i were to go to any gay fitness center or spa, i have only one intention.
18. 2007-11-23 10:10  

Do in Malaysia as the Malaysians do.

Go to Buddist country instead Muslim country for the PARTY~
19. 2007-11-23 10:14  
I'll probably get more brickbats than garlands for quoting this, bt I''ll say it anyway:

"I want to live together with the Muslim people, but it takes two to tango.
- Pim Fotuyn
20. 2007-11-23 10:15  
Human rights violations targeted toward persons because of their actual or perceived sexual orientation or gender identity constitute an entrenched global pattern of serious concern. They include extra-judicial killings, torture and ill-treatment, sexual assault and rape, invasions of privacy, arbitrary detention, denial of employment and education opportunities, and serious discrimination in relation to the enjoyment of other human rights.

Key human rights mechanisms of the United Nations have affirmed States' obligation to ensure effective protection of all persons from discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity. However, the international response has been fragmented and inconsistent, creating the need for a consistent understanding of the comprehensive regime of international human rights law and its application to issues of sexual orientation and gender identity.

The Yogyakarta Principles (U.N.) address the broad range of human rights standards and their application to issues of sexual orientation and gender identity.

These include extrajudicial executions, violence and torture, access to justice, privacy, non-discrimination, rights to freedom of expression and assembly, employment, health, education, immigration and refugee issues, public participation, and a variety of other rights.
21. 2007-11-23 11:16  
A friend just told me that he was at the other sauna when the police raided the place around 4 pm before G-word. Apparently, there were
many guys in towels walking around when the police arrived but non were arrested. He was lucky enough only to have his IC details noted.

In G word, all those locked up were fully clothed at the time of the raid ! Fully attired is a vice but naked in a towel is not.. don't really understand what is going with the authorities nowadays ?

Arresting wrong people for the sake of arresting does not reduce crimes. Around the time of the raid, a plu was found murdered in Penang. Has the murderer being arrested so efficiently as well ? Many murders happened but in many cases, those responsible are on the prowl...No wonder our crime rate is still on the rise...

22. 2007-11-23 14:14  
I think it's the same like elsewhere in other countries. Polices have so much power to put peaceful people into jail caz they don't fight. But for real criminas, polices wave their tail and call father and be nice to them. Gay is a way to show police power caz gay right is not protected by law in all asian countries. When police can not arrest criminal, they arrest gay.
23. 2007-11-23 14:19  
Like said if i were to go to gay sauna, i have only one sole intention. Claim what they want to claim.

Let me put it this way, say in your house your parent red handedly caught :-

1. You having sex with a guy in your house
2. Your sister having sex with a guy in your house.

Assuming both umarried teens. So what you think your parent will do? Can they say that its ok for you but not your sister?

Now put that into perspective where
Your house= malaysia
Your parent = malaysia authority
Your sister = representating straight commmunity
You = representing gay community.
24. 2007-11-23 14:51  
Agree totally. Here's a garland for you VexX..;P
25. 2007-11-23 16:34  
Thanks Fridae, for keeping us updated and aware of the situation. The Msian police have received a lot of bad press recently, with charges of corruption and ineptitude against the backdrop of overwhelming crime rates...I would think one of the reasons for "Ops Bersih" was that it was meant as a quick win to show that the police force haven't lost their b@ll$-- as what rexbkk so aptly pointed out. My heart goes out to all those who were caught doing what comes naturally. Its time for 377 to go.
26. 2007-11-25 18:09  
More reason to stay away from Malaysia and Singapore.
27. 2007-11-26 01:05  
And if visitors don't come to Malaysia or Singapore, where are you going to get your future update on news affecting us Malaysians and Singaporeans? CNN, Al Jazeera and the BBC? Can you trust them?

We are not Myanmar, if you sanction us - we the minority Malaysians and Singaporeans will suffer.
Give it some thought, ya.
28. 2007-11-27 02:02  
Just your regular tupperware party in progress.

You think we're all born yesterday?
29. 2007-11-29 13:50  
My first post,
Reference pentium8 post #17
I was surprised and disappointed to read such a post from a gay man. It lacks compassion and understanding of the oppression of gay men and women.If all people had taken this attitude we in the enlightened countries would still be where we were 40 years ago. Furthermore Buddhism has more connection with Malaysia than Islam which belongs in the Middle East. It`s in South East Asia by the sword.
Homosexuality does not have faith boundaries.
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32. 2007-11-30 17:23  
It does not really matter whether there was an ongoing orgy at the time of the raid or not. The intention speak for itself. I have spent alot of time talking to friends and the revelation frightens me. There are a large group of HIV+ people, whom do not care much about their wellbeing anymore, organising sex parties or practising unsafe sex, because they believe that their days are numbered. And there is another group who chose to believe that HIV and AIDs is a myth afther they get infected.

We, in the gay community, should spend more time reaching out and counselling our own people.

Rights we must have. But what rights ?? Rights to have orgies ?? Rights to hold parties ?? There are many other rights than those rights. Other than 377, haven't anyone noticed that we are fighting most of our time for the rights of our head between our legs ??

Clean Up Our Own Backyard Please.

BTW, I personally know of someone who is HIV+ and he is very angry, very very angry. I spend alot of time trying to change his attitude. God have mercy on those ignorant guys who insist that orgies are safe and everybody practise safe sex in those activities.
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34. 2007-12-01 00:06  
HOTGYMBOD did you even read this article? You sound like a headless chicken panicked by this scare tactic (quite a successful one too I might add), it would scare me.

But there was no orgy party as the Police misinformed the press who gobbled it up hungrily. It was a terrible lie.

Also why complain about condoms being present, used or unused. Surely this is a sign of good intent, a sign that safe sex is important.

HOTGYMBOD you are just making things worse by propagating the Police lies. If it was such an awful crime then why will no one be charged, then the cops might have to hand back their coffee money. It was just one big series of headlines, expect for the real victims of course. Those guys I feel very sorry for, you have been used and abused.
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38. 2007-12-03 15:24  
SwimChamp, you can choose to read what you want to read and believe in, or want others to believe from the comfort of your home in UK.

I choose to work in the field and get the facts correct, and hopefully inform others about dangerous issues which are swept under the carpet in this part of the world. I prefer to advocate others in our community to be socially responsible.
39. 2007-12-05 00:10  
a turkish said i was racist against the malay, based on this article. probably it's becoz he was not born chinese or indiean in this country called malaysia. well first of all he doesn't know that we, as indian and chinese, are called the second citizen in malaysia; and of course the government will give whatever priority or advantage to the malay or so-called bumiputra first. but man, chinese are not stupid or dump like malay -- so we use the malay's advantage to buy those lands or put a malay in the company henceforth enjoy the advantage that the government gives to the bumiputra.

i just hope one day malaysia won't become another Iran (oh, muslim country!) or indonesia where they kill gay men openly!!!
40. 2007-12-05 20:25  
here's what the turkish guy lives in m'sia wrote to me:
'now I know why you even loo so ugly just like a pig
no wounder why nobody wanted to fuck you here in MALAYSIA....haha. MALAYSIA is the best, people like you, TO RUBBISH CAN.... go live in china or singapore or whatever, Malaysia is Malaysia not chinasya... JERK'

i swear to everyone i did not make this up, and you can see it's not me who's being racist but muslim are generally being so close-minded, even to an afro hairstyle!

oh, and yes, his username is mahsumyelmaz (call himself Jerk; well he's really a wanker?)
41. 2007-12-06 13:48  
Its interesting to read the comments on this article. It brings up all the issues Malaysia has and ever had. One can expect the "good old" racial issue to pop up related to anything that is in connection with Malaysia.
But apart from that the real thing is different. One should really think the authorities are stupid if they approve a "gym" as gym with a name "G-World".... Anyone here to explain what is "G" in the name if not gay? So we have a Gay World "gym" and surprised that it has been raided in a country where gay activities are illegal even one-on-one.
Then once you go there and check the place, people walking knee deep in condoms (used or new) and still some expect the place not to be seen as a venue for gay sex activities. Even if there are some weights and other gym equipment to defer the examining eye of the officials.
Apparently the owner has never received a permit for running a place for gay sex activities but something else, e.g. gym. Then he paid the authorities off (as its the usual case in Malaysia) to shut the eyes - but (as the article stated) this time he was not around to "smoothen things out" then police went there and has found condoms, lubricants and stuff that are not very closely related to the original purpose of the outlet.
Now whats the hassle all about? Is it so unusual in Malaysia that police enforces the law, mostly if not paid off?
Make gay sex legal, clean corruption and dont be surprised in the meantime if you are caught for illegal activities if you try to mimic your activity as legal.
42. 2007-12-13 17:07  
U think we can thrust our law enforcers to protect us and the law makers to do justification....NO, not for the minorities. Instead, they abuse the minorities and they use their enthrusted rights for their political intention, damn u. For those who speak in name of religion, u are the ones who should be condemn to hell.
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44. 2007-12-16 22:48  
ohhh can't agree with you more, qccm! islam and christianity are both aiming for peace and love, but look how the authority have misused them. if muslim means suppressing the women's right and killing gays, well, no wonder they believe there's a place called Heaven -- they will never find it in their own home and country (thanks Iran and Aghanistan for your damn work).
45. 2008-11-04 01:25  
Malaysia is still very much a Muslim country and possibly becoming more so...Islam and Gay are even more incompatible than fundamental Christianity and Gay.
Those people attracted by the Malaysian government's my second home programme should think twice about this very different culture . Despite Penang's reputation for being a more Chinese and open society...the national government is not and Islam is alive and well.
46. 2010-02-09 04:08  
i read all of this comment...some of the comment so funny... "black list" malaysia...dun wan come malaysia...dun wan do business in malaysia...jz bcoz of the gay topic thy dun wan do watever things in malaysia...mayb the ppl who write all this "dun wan",travel around the world just looking for sex...or the ppl who is so-called as stupid business men "dun wan to do business in malaysia" jz wan hav sex only on his mind not focusing on work 100%...hahaha... i love malaysia..its such a beautiful country...im hotelier and most of foreigner love to come to malaysia coz malaysia is peaceful n charm. so we dun even care for few stupid foreigner if thy dun wan come to malaysia...we not going to loose anythg...jz thy will loose the nice experience exploring malaysia...

im agree with some other comment... yup if u wan hav sex jz bring ur partner home or go to the hotel...more comfortable..if u plan to hav sex party jz organise at ur house lo... why wan go at public place...

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