Fridae is pleased to announce that our original domain name Fridae.com, which we had been using for the past 11 years, has been returned to us following a decision of a WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organisation) UDRP (Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy) Panel, on 2nd April 2012.
Fridae's original domain name, Fridae.com, had been redirecting to our new Fridae.asia site since June 2011 until this was disrupted by Fridae’s former CEO in November 2011.
Since then Fridae continued with business as usual through its new domain name Fridae.asia. Today, under new management who are totally committed to serving the LGBT community, Fridae.asia remains Asia's pre-eminent social networking and news and information site serving the LGBT community, with more than 500,000 registered members predominantly in Greater China, Southeast Asia and Australia.
Paul Thompson, Chairman of Fridae said: "We are delighted that the WIPO ruling has returned Fridae.com to its rightful owner. As an Asian business, we actually like our new name Fridae.asia which we believe reflects our unique position in the region and our commitment to the LGBT community in Asia.
"As such, we plan to continue to use the name Fridae.asia and users accessing Fridae.com (as well as Fridae.net and Fridae.org which were also returned to the Fridae group) will now be directed to Fridae.asia, our primary domain name. Although Fridae has been running with business as usual, during the recent removal of the fridae.com domain name, the situation had created confusion for our loyal members. So, indeed, we are very happy that this has now been resolved.”
Fridae, a Hong Kong registered company, will shortly launch a location based mobile application for its social networking site and is planning an LGBT travel and resource guide later in the year.
Fridae remains committed to developing a suite of services to better serve the LGBT community and supporting the empowerment of LGBT people in Asia. To date, Fridae has raised and disbursed over US$50,000 for projects that directly impact the LGBT community including Indignation (Singapore), Pink Dot (Singapore) and Taipei Pride Parade (Taiwan); and supported LGBT events across Asia including Hong Kong's Pink Season and the Hong Kong Lesbian & Gay Film Festival, Indonesia's Q Film Festival, Asian Queer Film Festival (Tokyo, Japan), the International Conference of Asian Queer Studies (Bangkok, Thailand), and the International Lesbian and Gay Association (ILGA)-Asia conferences in Chiangmai (Thailand) and Surabaya (Indonesia).
Response to feedback concerning Fridae's photo policy
Thanks to all for your feedback, whether sent to us privately or posted on the website. To read our clarification about the photo policy, please click here.
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However I think there's another situation or question you have to answer to, that being your plan to eliminate explicit pics from member profiles. Yes, yes, I know all about what it says in your rules regarding pics, but the fact is, Fridae let those rules slide for quite some time and now you want to enforce them seemingly because other members of the LGBT community take offense to them, which I don't believe. You will say that members can still have those pics and members can still access them IF they have a PERKS membership. So is this a subtle plan to sell more PERKS memberships? It WILL fail.
Fridae is a very good site and I personally derive a good deal of information from it on a wide variety of subjects and interests. However boys will be boys and we do like to see pics that titillate us, excite us and draw what I believe the vast majority, to your site. Perhaps Fridae wants to become another UTOPIA, which might be difficult. However I think your main competition is Gay Romeo which at this moment has (for example) 66 visitors from Vietnam while Fridae has 26 and 1859 visitors from Thailand while Fridae has 68. I suppose you could say that GR is more international in it's scope, but were I an official of Fridae I'd be wondering what the hell is going on and why don't we have more or as many, visitors as they do.
Perhaps you're not going to go ahead with your plan, I still see lots of flesh here, and if that is correct, I think it's a good change of plan.
Frankly I have been surprised that there hasn't been any discussion about this by members, but then, I don't recall seeing an article dealing with the subject that would give members an open opportunity to comment.
I didn't renew my PERKS which I've had for a few years because I really don't see what it has to offer now. Of couse I like to receive HEARTS (and roses too) but frankly I feel no need to save them forever.
If your changes go into effect I think Fridae will continue to be popular with the LgBT community, notice that the "g" might however, get a bit smaller....
However, I will not be convinced that Fridae is as campaigning as it was, until I see some sort of report or investigation as to why there appears to have been no reported judgement in the case that Mr. Ravi brought seeking leave to challenge 377A in Singapore, nearly 7 months ago. The judges appeared sympathetic. What is the new Fridae doing to establish the facts?
As for the pics policy, there's public and private. Explicit pics belong in the private boxes. But satirical pics or other emblematic pics should be allowed, since not everyone is here to show off their good looks, but to participate in a community, one that sometimes judges people by appearances.
However it always causes me some concern, (and scepticism), when a former CEO, (staff member etc), is defamed by the New Management.
The person in question is no longer able to directly respond to allegations, or refute them if they are untrue.
I think it shows greater integrity to acknowledge the valuable contributions and legacy of former CEO's, staff etc. and to let the actions of the New Management, attract positive rapport with it's membership.
Members seeking a balanced report really don't want to hear just one side of the story.
And members with "a life" really don't want to hear about internal squabbles and office politics.
The above news article could have simply read
INFORMATION FOR MEMBERS
Fridae.asia will now be also accessible through it's former domain name Fridae.com.
END OF STORY
Thanks again for providing a great quality service for LGBT people to meet in a positive and friendly environment.
Also agree with #7.
And, yes indeed, the new laws/rules/censorship regarding Nudity, in particular, are offensive to the members, As well as seeming like trying to force users into paying for memberships. I've nothing against Fridae seeking to/needing to monetise its users, and rake in more payments - fine, as it'd be crazy not to.
The new rules stink. Users are being censored by Fridae now, which means that it has no moral high ground any more to Ever report on gay people being muzzled, silenced or censored anywhere else, again - how can Fridae report on censorship, and rights, when it now seeks to ban/block 'offensive imagery'? Says Who? WHO is determining what is 'offensive', or 'sexual' - and for what purposes?
I'm really annoyed this, as it, for example, means that Fridae would block a Lot of art. Nude photography, painting, expression etc is a valid art form, with international respect and critical kudos - not Here any more, it ain't. I already know some people preparing to leave this new Fridae - the truth about what this bold new Fridae is, and is becoming, is yet another story that Fridae itself is ignoring, while the users have noticed.
Fridae - Whatever your mysterious new agenda is, and Whoever you're trying to appease, now - this isn't the site I first joined, and I Don't like this new direction...
I have spent enough of my life putting up with other people telling me what I can and cannot do. The joy of the gay community is that we resist that.
Fridae is no longer part of that community in my view.
Users are being censored by Fridae now, which means that it has no moral high ground any more to Ever report on gay people being muzzled, silenced or censored anywhere else, again - how can Fridae report on censorship, and rights, when it now seeks to ban/block 'offensive imagery'? Says Who? WHO is determining what is 'offensive', or 'sexual' - and for what purposes?
Absolutely correct and well said.
When was the last time a gay dating site has been seen organising a LGBT diversity conference with a blue-chip MNC like IBM? It's obvious enough, if anyone wants to use a sleazy thrashy site go elsewhere. Fridae has made its choice and you can too.
Great points to raise for debate.
However, Fridae is primarily an Online Social Network.
If you compare Fridae to other Straight online social networks,
you would have to agree it is much less sleazy and has an
excellent image. While many other networks use invitations such as
"Guys come to our Site and Get Laid with Local Girls in your area",
Fridae has an entirely different public image.
I hardly think that having erotic images in a person's profile, is going to turn Sponsors away; it doesn't seem to be an issue for Facebook etc.
If a sponsor wishes a gay site to be "squeaky clean" before it will deal with them, I would suspect this to be an issue of homophobia and discrimination, rather than industry standards.
As for taking responsibility for "mainstream society" viewing "gay subculture..as obsessed with sex and kink".
1. This is the view of a small minority of ignorant people.
2. We do not play the "victim" by taking responsibility to change the views of those who wish to persecute others. We address this issue by "condemning" such views and the ignorance behind them.
3. When you say that "WE" have helped to create a
bad image of gay people - who is "WE"?
Most of the gay people I know are ordinary people
and nothing like the sleazy, kinky people you mention.
4. We do not "try to clean up the image" created in people's distorted views. The vast majority of gay people are members of "mainstream society".
We do not need to make excuses for, (a minority group of), "sleazy men".
Do members of the straight community approach the gay community to apologise for the sleazy behaviour of ,(a minority group of), straight men?
To say, therefore, that mainstream society only has itself to blame for having a distorted or lopsided view of gay people is, in my view, a fiction and reflects a warped view of life that is untenable because, while gay people have a right to be treated as co-equal partners with straight people in this thing called life we have NO right to demand that straight people treat us the way we want to be treated. That kind of respect is earned.
And, every human being earns such respect by giving that respect first. To me, letting your crown jewels hang out for all and sundry at a gay pride parade is disrespectful to participants who don't wish to see them. Afterall, one cannot assume that the only people who take part in a gay pride event are all members of the LGBT community, can we? Likewise, publishing your crown jewels on a gay website such as Fridae is equally disrespectful to others generally because we cannot assume that those who view the site are all from the LGBT community.
So, sprucing up one's own home to make it decent for the benefit of invited guests is, in most circustances, an accepted norm and an expression of respect for one's guests. Likewise, the new Fridae rules on decency.
In failing to attract greater membership (which other site has to resort to such frequent and major discount of paid membership?), Fridae has not succeeded in its primary objective as a social networking or dating site. At the end of the day, no matter how many accolades they get for community work, if they have overlooked their fundamental principles and failed to appease those whom they were meant to "empower", it's not a job well-done.
As I understand it all nudity is now banned, which is very odd as seeing as the policy came into force on 12th April there certainly is still a lot of flesh on show! Like many others I would like to know who this 'moral minority' are who've been whispering in the management's ear. Since when did a picture of a guy on the beach wearing swim shorts become 'indecent'? And what about all those thousands of bathroom mirror self portraits, are they to be banned also?
Ok I can understand explicit cock shots, porn stills, close up of bare-backing etc are not what everybody wants to see, so its fair and reasonable (IMHO) to expect members to place them in a vault. However this does smack of commercialism seeing as the private photo function has been removed, so now members who want to show their bits (or even an exposed ankle) have to pay for perks. I do understand the site has to generate income to survive but what gets me is the draconian and almost medieval attitude towards nudity.
Yes the site needs to be inclusive, (in my experience lesbians don't want to look at cocks). Yes the site needs to aware of the many religious and cultural differences between the many countries it operates in. But no nudity at all?
What about that flashing Fridae Shop ad on the home page with the three guys wearing briefs? Double standards anyone?
The photo policy appears to have been written in the dark ages, this is 2112 and I thought we'd long since moved away from the Judeo-Christian child rearing ethics that make people feel guilty about their bodies and sexuality. It's a gay networking site and people (regardless of their religious and cultural sensibilities) should know what they are letting themselves in for when they log on.
Management should listen to the membership because it's we who will vote with our feet and head off to Manjam. And just in case anyone thinks this is a moan about not being able to look at naughty pics... If we wish to view porn there are plenty of other places we can visit to do that.
Oh and what about the Tribes by the way? Lots of naughty pictures in there...are they to be banned now?
I don't expect Fridae to choose between being a harem or a monastery. There is plenty of scope to strike a balance, but the new photo policy does precious little to encourage me to stay when my perks run out in July.
Let's have some consistency please Fridae, you can start by taking down all nudity in your adverts.
Now please excuse me as I have to take a shower. I promise I will wear a full length Victorian style bathing suit as by the look of things they are making a comeback.....
P.S. I agree with #1, #8, #9, #17.
Again, the argument returns to censorship - Nudity is NOT the same as Explicit Sexuality, and I think it's wrong, just wrong the way Fridae is now trying to determine what IT says is acceptable, rather than the users. Who was asked if they wanted to see nude pics removed here, or some undefined level of 'decency' imposed on users? I wasn't asked - were you?
Fridae's new 'moral' rules would see it blocking imagery from a vast range of artists, and genres. From the likes of Michaelangelo and Carravagio et al to Bacon and Freud, All such great and critically respected artists (who created and formed entire sections of what 'Art' is, and how people would express themselves) would fall foul of this new Fridae, which is now equating ALL nudity with 'unacceptable' and 'explicit' imagery, which is the kind of nonsense I expect to see from certain Third-World fundamentalist countries, but Not from This site.
That's the key part to my/this argument - that this site is trying to impose some retrospective, blinkered and non-transparent 'order' on users, and is, in the process, abandoning both whatever moral high ground it previously had (how can a 'gay' website claim to represent its members, and to represent gay interests, when it suddenly starts rolling out an undefined censorship that also attacks Art - through the medium of Photography), as well as turning into a site that's clearly becoming more corporate and less gay-friendly/interested by the week.
Oh, of course there's no reply/engagement from the site's management here, on this highly-contentious topic about Fridae's new direction, and future. However, right when the CEO left under a cloud, various people had said to me: "Next, they'll ban 'gay' pics and nudity, and Then Fridae will start trying to ditch its 'gay' identity to become some kind of media or networking site."
Well, here we are, with Step One underway, and Fridae attempting to strip out the 'too-gay' element from this GAY website. To misquote Orwell, under these new steps: "All gays are created equal ... But some are created less equal than others."
Off I go to get ready for work, before some Fridae Suit pops up to delete my/your criticism, with some new rule of "Fridae deserves the right to remove content that is inflammatory, critical, rebellious or that we just don't like, especially from users who won't do what they're told."
But, lastly, after eight years or whatever, I don't think I can renew my Perks, either, when they expire - this new Fridae is shifting into something colder, more corporate, and hypocritical - while I Don't personally need to see explicit pics/content, I want the Right to be able to do so, as a free-thinking adult, and, to me, these new rules represent an attack on Art, as well as steps into censorship - and THOSE are what I don't want to support with My hard-earned money...
Fridae making lots of money with advertising and site traffic.
All these new rules are big turn off.
More like empowering the management n $$$ in their pocket
Focussing on a greater global presence would ensure those Asian LGBT who are ethnic minorities in their respective countries have a sanctuary where they can meet people without being subjected to the racist sentiments that exist on other sites. As it stands, the number of new Australian profiles with a photo and content is woeful.
Perhaps they should change their mission statement to "Empowering Gay Asians", to include the rest of us who do not necessarily live in Asia. Why else would you have a global member base? We have our own suite of issues being a minority within a minority. Isn't that a cause worth pursuing?
And clear guidelines for explicitness could be spelt out e.g. excessive frontal nudity, obvious sex scenes etc.
#27/Gwen87, Explicit photos can be in each member's Vault section provided they have Perks which I think is fair enough.
Who are the hags supposed to have been offended? In any event they'd be a tiny majority, if they exist, which I don't believe...
Quick poll: #24 win Cutie pie.
Totally agree with #31.
As for #33. Don't waste my time.
I just renewed my perks prior but would not have had I known that this was happening.
Good to see that others are also feeing the same and hopefully management will take some of this feedback on board. This short sighted approach will cost revenue in the long run and rightly so. Have they considered doing a few polls to see what the users really want?
Many times I've smiled at some of the profile pics and this is what keeps the site fun. There needs to be a balance of naughty and nice, paid and non paid to keep you coming back!
So, who is this 'us', and How, exactly, is this site 'theirs'?!
Apart from having successfully driven off the guy that started this website - which makes the new/current management look like cuckoos in the nest - THIS Fridae is not THE Fridae of old, as this hypocritical and egregious new direction is proving.
As some who works with words and language for a living, tearing through thousands of words a day to put stories into several newspapers, and often having to edit and check the words of government ministers when they land on my desk, I can tell you that I have a pretty damn exact eye for What words can really mean, and How they can be accurately used.
In this respect, this very story by Fridae is misleading and self-serving - and its failure to disclose the full truth of what, exactly, has been going on with Whoever now runs this site, and what their agenda is, now, is also non-transparent and questionable.
Sure, most users/members won't have noticed, or even think about such things - but I'm one of Those annoying, questioning, suspicious people (perhaps because I'm a journalist/editor) that's looking at the bigger picture of how New Fridae works - and I don't like what's there, behind the stonewalling facade. So, no, I won't renew these Perks when they run out; Fridae won't care to lose my revenue, but I'm not comfortable with supporting this site any more, on the direction it's heading...
For years, I was a daily visitor to Fridae. Recently, it's more in the region of weekly. It seems both the quality and quantity of news has dropped away under the new management, making the site less attractive.
The new photo policy is bordering on puritan and, since when has the gay community been puritan? I, too, wonder where the new management is planning to take Fridae. They certainly have given US - those who fund them - no indication.
My perks have nearly 2 years to run, since I jumped in on the CNY "Special offer" but, unless something really positive happens, not only will I not be renewing the perks but I'll be closing my account long before they expire.
Gayromeo has a lot more to offer than the 'new' Fridae. My time is spent there these days.
The first page, after I clicked "wear", presented me with a whole array of "clothed groin" photos, which were explicitly banned in the new photo guidelines.
So I then clicked on "underwear" and was presented with another array of "clothed groin" pics.
I was proud of my underwear/swimwear-making efforts and posted some "clothed groin" shots of same. After Fridae's threats - I mean "new guidelines", I removed them.
There's hypocrisy at large here. Fridae has not in any way censored their own shop. Then again, how do you sell underwear and swimwear if you can't show it?
In my initial response to the subject (which I made directly to the webmaster when I received the notice) I wondered about those adverts for underwear, calendars, swimwear etc., ; would they be banned too? The response to that was that no, advertising would not be included in the clean it up program. So I guess if members are willing to advertise themselves, then provocative pics will be OK.
I suggested that a more secure method of entry be set-up. I suggested a system similar to that of my bank in which after I enter my user name and password, I have to answer one or more questions which I have created. As it stands now, anyone can go to the personal pages without signing in or being a member and view the "thumbs". A more secure entry system would protect Fridae and the privacy of members.
So the question shouldn't be - what should we take away? but rather - how can we make our system better and more private while accommodating the members?
I really don't give a toss about the obvious double standards of management regarding profile vs advertising pics. All I want is to be able to connect with some really interesting people.
Please Fridae, can we have the original Fridae back again?
I happen to think fridae remains a great social networking site. But, as others have said, there is a very serious danger that it is losing out to other similar sites that have far larger memberships - particularly with members who are far more regularly on-line. I'm happy to retain my membership - for now. But childish censorship and overt inconsistencies have already raised red flags in my mind.
@ Andy370 You can't have the old Fridae back without having the old management back. Sadly, that seems unlikely at best.
(also known as the "Put that thing away Policy").
Perhaps the new management is Straight -
and are Offended by Gay nudity?? :)
The above article makes the claim:
"the new management who are totally committed to serving the LGBT community.."
Serving? Oh, like asking what you need - and helping?
Community? So...something like working together and everyone has a voice and gets to participate?
Maybe the upcoming tag line will soon be changed from
"Empowering Gay Asia" to
"Empowering Gay Asia - through Moral Dictatorship" !!
I'm feeling so "Empowered" already !
(just a minute - while I go and put some clothes on :)
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