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17 Sep 2009

Police raid of gay bar in Atlanta attracts outrage

Patrons of the bar say they were made - some by physical force - to lay face down on the bar's filthy floors for up to two hours while police officers made anti-gay slurs.

The Huffington Post, a respected online news website, has called it Stonewall 2009 in a headline. Syndicated gay advice columnist Dan Savage blasted the raid in a blog entry titled ‘Once Upon A Time In America...’ on The Stranger: "...the police could raid a gay bar with impunity - and rough up and abuse the patrons they found inside - and the police knew the fags they were brutalizing couldn't protest because their parents and co-workers might find out they were gay. Someone needs to let the police in Atlanta know that those days are long gone."


A rally is being planned for Sept 19 from noon at the Atlanta Eagle bar which was established 23 years ago.
Eight employees including a co-owner were arrested for operating a business without a license and for dancing without a permit on Sep 10 after police raided the Atlanta Eagle, a leather bar in Atlanta, the state capital of Georgia in the US. The owners of the bar say their establishment was unfairly targeted.

"This is all about the way my patrons were being treated," said Atlanta Eagle co-owner Richard Ramey told the mainstream newspaper, Atlanta Journal-Constitution. "They were completely humiliated. It was unjustified for them to be treated that way."

The Southern Voice, a gay newspaper, reported that the Atlanta Police Department had released copies of nine complaints filed by the bar’s patrons and employees about being treated roughly by about 20 uniformed and undercover police officers. They said that the police had forced them to lay face down on the grimy floor for as long as two hours as they frisked everyone and checked their identification in a computer system.

Reports say police did not find any illegal substances, and the men were ordered to leave without their mobile phones, wallets and other personal belongings.

The Voice detailed the complaints: "One man said officers grabbed patrons who didn't immediately lie down by the neck and forced them to the ground. The man said he was kicked in the ribs while lying down. 'Then I heard laughing and giggling and saying this is more fun than raiding niggers with crack.'"

"Another patron said he saw officers forcing people to the ground by officers pushing their shoulders or the backs of their heads. He said he asked to move because there was broken glass on the floor where he was lying, and he was told to ‘shut the fuck up.’ The customer recounted hearing anti-gay slurs: I heard several slurs such as 'I hate homosexuals.' I also heard 'I don't like fags.'"

The police department has defended thair actions saying undercover vice officers had been to the club and witnessed men having sex while other patrons watched after having received complaints in May about drugs being sold on Atlanta Eagle premises and that patrons engaged in open sex acts.

At a press conference, Atlanta Police Chief Richard Pennington said he takes seriously allegations of police misconduct. He also expressed regret that Danni Lynn Harris, the department’s liason with the gay and lesbian community, “had been left out of the raid.”

"We’re going to include her next time so this won’t happen again," Pennington said.

"If she had been [involved], a lot of this would not have happened."

A user Kevin sharply noted in a comment on Towleroad.com, a gay news blog: "The problem is not whether or not the so-called LGBT liaison was there or not. She cannot be present every single time a cop encounters a gay person. She should not need to be present on the so-called raid to make sure the cops keep in line. This is extremely disturbing."

Several protests calling for a formal investigation had been held since the raid and another has been planned for Sept 19 from noon at the bar which was established 23 years ago.




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Reader's Comments

Comment #1 was deleted by its author on 2009-09-17 19:42
2. 2009-09-17 19:50  
Further proof that homophobia, hatred and bigotry are all alive and flourishing in the USA. SHAME on the Atlanta police officers and their chief, who are employees of the citizens of the city, INCLUDING the tax-paying FAGS who reside there and expect respect and protection, not persecution and humiliating physical abuse. That Chief Richard Pennington’s initial comments to the press were focused on the “absence of the gay liason”, was nothing more than a boring old tap-dance..scape-goating. He should, instead, conduct a thorough internal investigation and bring the police officers who perpretrated these abuses to justice. There should be no room on any police force for homophobes. I hope the gay community and their attorneys litigate this terrible event as far as the law will allow....and my hope for those officers involved is: "heads will roll"...
3. 2009-09-17 20:08  
Gross, this has been happening around the States lately. "Someone needs to let the police in Atlanta know that those days are long gone" indeed.
Comment #4 was deleted by its author on 2009-09-19 00:19
5. 2009-09-17 22:43  
Thought the Americian police were more civilized but they turn out to be worst then those in other countries..where's the human rights!
6. 2009-09-17 23:25  
"We're going to include her (Lynn Harris, gay liason) next time, so this doesn't happen again", states Chief Richard Pennington; who is sending a clear signal to the Atlanta gay community that raids of gay establishments are inked indelibly into his agenda. To the cops that stated they "hate fags"....remember that there are a lot of fags, and heterosexuals who also hate cops....justifiably, even MORE SO now. To the cops who stated, "this is more fun than raiding niggers with crack": the crack heads often carry guns and knives...we don't (yet)...and you need serious behavior modification therapy, you sick bigots....get out of the public service arena...find a job where your brand of hate and bigotry are useful.
7. 2009-09-17 23:27  
Comment #2 you wrote "There should be no room on any police force for homophobes"...
well, yes, of course. You're right and who would disagree with such a statement ?
Sadly - and you do realize that, I'm sure - what you wrote is akin to saying : there should be no police force.

Homophobia is part and parcel of the macho identity, along with gynophobia (contempt of women) and hatred/contempt of anything seen as "weak". These attitudes are hammered into almost every man's brain and heart on this sore planet, from a VERY early age and by virtually every person and institution around him. Strangely the process goes on in very different societies, rich and poor, ancient or recent, religious or not, dictatorial or democratic, communist or capitalist. Something to reflect upon.

There are, mercifully, other influences, but if we look around us, we can only acknowledge that they are definitely not the mainstream force. Their relative counter-impact is what will make the difference between a "man" and a "macho". Just looking around us we can see how many of the latter and so few of the former (including in the gay "community"), and, well, it's kind of depressing.

Most boys are ENCOURAGED to be brutal, arrogant, aggressive, homophobic and gynophobic, selfish and self serving, etc... all of that wrapped under the guise of "masculinity", a good example of which is Rudyard Kipling's famous poem "You'll Be A Man, My Son", seen by so many as inspirational, highly moral and virtuous while it could (and should) also be epitomized as the typical load of macho crap which turns male humans into macho idiots (albeit with a literary flourish in this case).

Training in the army and the police is INCREDIBLY homophobic. The army and the police recruit MOSTLY men who have no respect whatsoever for women, gays and "other losers". Changing that would mean changing society so deeply and so utterly that, honestly, it's nothing but a dream.

However let's dream on, my friend, because some dreams CAN indeed change the world. As long as the dreamer realizes the forces at stake and the fact that his dream is but a dream, at least in the beginning. Gandhi was fully aware of that and so was Martin Luther King who said "I have a dream" and not "I have a wish" or "I have a plan".
8. 2009-09-17 23:36  
From: http://www.365gay.com/blog/091709-atlanta-police-step-into-it:

The most bizarre charge is the detention of an Atlanta Eagle employee. He lives above the bar, wasn’t working the night of the raid, but the police pounded on his door anyway.

“He opened the door to two cops who asked if anyone was having sex there. They asked why there was a bed and he said it was because he lives there. He was made to come downstairs and was arrested with the other employees. He recalled hearing comments like ‘You people are despicable.’”

So having a bed in an apartment is now despicable. Glad that was straightened out.

The owners of the Atlanta Eagle are not going into the good night quietly. Here is their Facebook page and there is a rally this week-end. If you are in Atlanta throw them your support.
9. 2009-09-17 23:41  
The US of f***ng A as it is, as it has been and as it will be... there is nothing new under the sun... surely it is despicable but what did you expect in a country where racists, homophobes and machos are king?
10. 2009-09-18 04:58  
"stonewall of 2009"?
11. 2009-09-18 06:25  
Well, the question is what are those patrons going to do about that raid? Were they in the wrong, were they doing anything illegal? First of all, the club is operating with out a licence and allowing dancing without a permit. The cops will use the mentioned reason for their raid. Also there were allegations of sex on the premises.

To have a leg to stand on legally, you have to be transparent and innocent. I am not justifying police brutality which it was but you are giving the cops excuses to abuse. If I was an innocent patron who was brutalised by the cops then I will on the phone to my lawyer and my local political representative. And yes, I would organise and participate in rallys against police brutality as well.

I hear alot of terrible homophic incidents but they never happen to me. Do you know why? That is because I don't put up with shit. I am out and I am visible to all people who come in contact with me. I don't hide behind masks and so that does not give anyone any reason to blackmail me. Oh, and I work out as well. So I am prepared to fight any homophobe mentally and physically.
12. 2009-09-18 06:59  
How can the United States be so advanced in some ways yet so behind the times when it comes to homosexuality???
13. 2009-09-18 11:24  
It's really disgusting for the american to have that kind attitude.....how can we move on and how can we respect by the others if our writings and actions reciprocately stated to what we do......now how can we tell it doesn't matter well in fact ur not the fact and you are fuck americans..
14. 2009-09-18 11:41  
Hello Mark (comment 12)

The US are "so advanced" in what ways ? the way of democracy ? of social equality ? of respect and solidarity with the poor, the unlucky and the different ? of culture ? education ? moral standards ? spirituality ? and while we're at it, do you know any other country which may be considered a champion (or even a reasonably good apprentice) in any of these fields ?

Or is it technology you were referring to ? Finance ? Marketing ? Show business ? that kind of thing ?
15. 2009-09-18 15:56  
I pray their children, brothers and sisters be one of us see if they will beat the living day light out of their life and go to jail for the rest of their fucking life behind bars. Hopefully our fellow brother inside will give them some real light about being btm up ... amen!!!~
16. 2009-09-18 16:58  
Well I think the patrons will SUE the Police Department in the USA, just like Gay Patrons from the "TASTY Raid" did in Melbourne years ago.

I have friends who joined the group civil cause and got enough money to put a deposit on a house in Melbourne (Australia).

It is one thing to shut a bar/club for No Liquor Licence. But the patrons aren't at fault for that, and even if they didn't have a licence to trade thats what the court system is about.
17. 2009-09-18 18:52  
I hope the Mayor has about 3 million US in his budget for this little episode. Sadly it does reflect the deteriation of the education system and the beating civil rights took with the last 8 years. Many of the appointments made into Civil Rights Agencies were tainted with right wing activitists that wanted to throw out much of the gain that had been made since the 1950's. It's really a shame.
18. 2009-09-18 19:01  
The other annoying part of this episode is that the police are way too eager to investigate a trumped up complaint of this nature. The reality is that the religious right wingers have an agenda whereby they target any GLBT organization and make complaints against it. They frequently have their own underage progeny call for directions and try to engage business owners so they may then file a compalint against them. So you have the religious zealots coupled up with the over zealous and under trained police team and tragedy pursues.....
19. 2009-09-18 21:57  
what classy gay man or gal would be caught dead in a place that has no license and has such dirty, sticky floors as u decscribe? the police behaviour is inexcusabe, but this club is raunchy, low class and even the hot gay police in my private utopia world would have shut it down, i am not gonna rally to help skanky establishments that dont even have a business license or a clue on how to operate
20. 2009-09-18 22:01  
this is the last place i would go to in Atlanta, which by the way does have a great group of sexy healthy wholesome gay men who thrive in awesome clubs with licenses, they are also treated well by the city police cause they are handsome, dress well, good mannered, drive nice cars, and obey the traffic laws and don't jay walk
21. 2009-09-19 00:04  
Gosh! The Atlanta police misconduct sounds almost eerily identical with that of Malaysian police. The difference is that patrons in Atlanta filed complaints with the police, and the police chief expressed a certain degree of regrets. The gay liaison could have been there if this was pre-planned. But why was she not included? Police brutality is totally unacceptable in a civil society, even more so when it is done with impunity.
22. 2009-09-19 01:12  
I would like to point out one "small misconception" about the Eagle Bar. In the USA, a business can apply for many different types of licenses depending on their goods and services...1. Liquor License (the right to sell alcoholic beverages to the public)....and there are two main types of liquor licenses. 2. Restaurant License (the right to sell food to the public). 3. Entertainment License (the right to have live bands, singers) 4. Dancing License (the right to dance on the premises) 5. Adult Entertainment License (the type hetero strip joints have to get for their pole girls...etc). The Eagle Bar, which has been in business for many years, does have the proper bar /liquor licenses to sell alchohol but, did not have a Dancing License, nor an Adult Entertainment License. So if you're a young twink in the Eagle bar, drinking your Cosmo, grooving to the beat of the music in your Speedos or jogging shorts (just having come from your workout), technically you would be breaking two laws in that establishment. Sounds petty and nit-picky, right? But that's how the police force and their attorneys will justify their raid and subsequent treatment to which they subjected the innocent staff and patrons....all this drama and injustices apparently based upon "anonymous complaints". Such is life in the good ol USA......land of the "free", home of the "brave".
23. 2009-09-19 13:49  
It's kinda sad and surprising because Atlanta was my hometown before, when I went to Georgia Tech. In this kind of situation, those guys there should beat the police until they are bloodied on the ground. If they shoot, then shoot them back. We can have guns in the US anyway. If the law enforcement officers are committing illegal violent acts to us, we have moral right and duty to commit counter-violence against law officers. If necessary, shoot back to kill.
24. 2009-09-21 02:22  
anti-homophobia, there seems to still be a loooooong way to go~
25. 2009-09-21 09:41  
Post 20 makes a good point. If you favor civil rights and equal protection under the law you have to dress smart and drive fancy cars and walk about in your Allen Edmonds. Number 20...spoken as a true republican I guess.
26. 2009-09-22 13:56  
One cop actually said that 'this was more fun than arresting niggers on crack'....?

We are talking about Atlanta, GEORGIA, right?

Ray Charles' version of 'Georgia on My Mind' being their state anthem?

Well, it's a redneck state. Though, I must admit, forcing people to lie on the grimy floor for two hours is no example of the famed 'Southern Hospitality'.

While the actions of the police were outrageous, it is the inaction by their superiors in dealing with those who are prejudiced within their own ranks that will prove that the state's authority to dispense civil justice is merely promoting inequality in a federation of 50 states that boasts justice and equality for all its citizens.

Thus proving that Orwellian theory that some are more equal than others.
27. 2009-09-22 19:44  
I'm not surprised, after all it is 'the home of the brave the home of the free' "cough cough", the place was allegedly, according to the police an an illegal operation and if it was and if it is also illegal to operate a venue encouraging sex on premices well I can only say stupid people for going there, when will Gay Men stop being their own worst enemies and why do they think that being Homosexual gives them divine rights above and beyond every one else to be grossly sleezy? every ones looking for their own Stonewall, it's pathetic, Stonewall was exceptional and inspirational, just like Mardis Gras here they beat their little side fracus up in Kings cross into some thing it wasn't and into ledgendary proportions, so DECEITFUL. this bar raid appears just a blatant attempt by business people to circumvent zoning or licencing laws and scream homophobia when you don't get your own way.
28. 2009-09-22 20:32  
Re #21:

The Royal Malaysian Police has never yet asked Malaysian citizens involved in a club raid to lie down with their faces on the grimy floor for two hours or more. Let's just get that out of the way.

#22 seems to explain the validity of the raid justified by the missing licenses, but how does one validate the treatment of individuals during the raid.

This is not a Stonewall. If the establishment was without the proper licensing, why take it out on the customers instead of the owners of said establishment?
29. 2009-09-25 00:15  
I once pointed my finger at one who had fallen along life's way , and as I looked , what did I see ? Three of my fingers pointing at me !
30. 2009-09-28 16:34  
Well, what do you expect coming from the US of A? lol...don't be fooled by their 'inclusive' stance you see , much of America's in fact very homophobic, and deeply racist. And anti-Semitic too, may I add. I should've known- my Jewish dad's got first-hand experiece in his growing-up years there- and its nt even in some redneck bumpkin suburb like Atlanta, its New York. so...just imagine.
Comment #31 was deleted by its author on 2009-09-28 16:35
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