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20 Jul 2012

Malaysia PM: LGBTs, liberalism, pluralism are enemies of Islam

Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak reiterates that "deviant aspects such as liberalism, pluralism and Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT)" would not have a place in the country.

"LGBTs, pluralism, liberalism – all these 'isms' are against Islam and it is compulsory for us to fight these," declared Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak on Thursday, according to independent news website, The Malaysian Insider. He was speaking at an event comprising 11,000 Islamic religious leaders and mosque committee members from around Malaysia.

Malaysia PM Najib Razak

His comments follow his comments made during a book launch in late June that deviant aspects such as liberalism, pluralism and Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) would not have a place in the country, reported state-run Bernama news.

At the latest event, Najib also said the government supports human rights, but only within the boundaries of Islam. He further advised Muslims to avoid discord which could threaten those who safeguard Islamic principles. 

“If the nation falls into a state of chaos, who will safeguard these people?” he asked.

“There are so many attacks on our religion. LGBTs, pluralism, liberalism, Seksualiti Merdeka. We must stand strong and defend the government,” he added.

Seksualiti Merdeka, an annual sexuality rights festival held in Kuala Lumpur since 2008, was forcibly cancelled by the police in November 2011.

In June, Najib expressed disappointment toward US President Barack Obama’s stance on same sex marriages in a statement issued by Malaysia's Foreign Ministry. It said that while Malaysia does not intrude upon another country's domestic issues as the values of foreigners differ from those of Malaysia, Malaysia “will not compromise or work together with any parties in or outside of the country to recognise the LGBT community and its rights”.

His comments follow opposition leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim's remarks the day before in which he had reportedly said he agreed with discriminating against gays to protect sanctity of marriage.

Anwar Ibrahim, former Deputy Prime Minister of Malaysia and is currently the de facto leader of Keadilan (People's Justice Party).

According to another report by The Malaysian Insider on Wednesday, Anwar answered in the affirmative when asked by defence lawyer Datuk Firoz Hussein: "Should we discriminate against homosexuals?"

"We don't give space to homosexuals and uphold the sanctity of marriage," Anwar said, adding the law must be "crafted in a way we must believe the sanctity of marriage between a man and woman". 

"We do not promote homosexuality," he added. 

However, Anwar also insisted that archaic laws – referring to Section 377 of the Malaysian Penal Code which criminalises unnatural sexual offences including gay sex – should be reviewed as it is used "only used for political reasons”. 

Earlier this year, Anwar was acquitted of a charge of sodomising former male aide Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan, with the High Court ruling that the prosecution had not done enough to prove Anwar had committed sodomy against Saiful.

Malaysia's 13th general elections must be called by March 2013. It is widely expected to be a close contest after the ruling UMNO coalition suffered its worst result in 40 years during the 2008 elections.


Malaysian LGBTS should vote wisely in upcoming elections

Ahmad Hafidz Baharom Alam Shah, an openly gay social commentator in Malaysia, was asked by Fridae to share his insights and thoughts about the spate of anti-gay bashing by Malaysian politicans: 

"This is all political, since it is a well known fact that no party wants to advocate or even discuss LGBT rights until after the next Malaysian General Election due to be called at any moment as the current government's mandate ends in March 2013. Till then, expect the bashing to continue as politicians from both sides try to win votes from the Malaysian Malay majority, which is roughly 60 percent of the population.

"One side now wants to maintain the status quo of which sodomy is a federal crime while another wishes to abolish this because they think it is archaic and abused purely to arrest politicians.

"If you are true to yourself and know that you are in fact a member of the LGBT community, you know who to vote for."

Click on the "Malaysian LGBTS should vote wisely in upcoming elections" link below to read more.

Malaysia

Reader's Comments

1. 2012-07-20 17:52  
HELL.. WHAT A STONE-AGE MENTALITY.
2. 2012-07-20 17:54  
How can our feelings be the enemy of a religion? The PM has to think twice, are we LGBT people looking down on this religion, or is it the religion that looking down on LGBTs? I believe this is the key point, and easy to answer.

3. 2012-07-20 18:26  
Muslims only know about hate and violence. All the rest of their religion is a hoax to disguise that basic fact
4. 2012-07-20 18:46  
What a sad man. Doesn't he look tired.
5. 2012-07-20 18:46  
i disagree with u denseaus,though majority might pose to be violent,the religion itself is peaceful,only those who practice it twisted its meaning to serve their own purpose,in this case, power over the people in the form of an ugly and greedy tyrant,being a malaysian in UK i feel so ashamed!
6. 2012-07-20 19:48  
As I understand it, Islam is all about submission to the will of Allah. Najib seems to be all about submitting to the will of one (fat) woman. How 'Islamic' is that?
7. 2012-07-20 19:50  
R E D N E C K I thought they were only in America !!
8. 2012-07-20 19:50  
#3, Sweeping generalisation and totally untrue!

#5. Agreed, we only get to see the few maniacs spouting hate and death, but the cameras switch off when the millions of peace loving and tolerant Muslims go about their daily lives, I guess it does'nt make good TV.

I've never really subscribed to the idea that the more militant Muslims are frustrated by the perceived 'superiority' of their faith, yet has so little influence on the global stage.

Politics and religion, quite a heady mix! These two dick heads are appealing to the conservative vote, it's a trick which doesn't go down well and it's quite a risk. Many Malaysians must be rolling their eyes when they hear this claptrap. Whoever is elected it's to be hoped they just get on with running the country and leave the gays alone.

9. 2012-07-20 19:56  
At least we know we we're dealing with... which was always quite clear...
10. 2012-07-20 20:19  
#6 one (fat) woman? Only one? Oh yeah, that's right, the other Mongolian one got blown to bits.
11. 2012-07-20 20:20  
This one came up a while ago actually. I guess, it'll continually be used in the race for polls.

The country hasn't even progressed past racial quotas or women's rights in terms of social reforms. They should just focus on education, healthcare and economic reforms that actually brings clear tangible results. While they're at it, make the public sector independent non-partisan.

The anti-LGBT propaganda should not even on the list of these people...

This is just frustrating..

12. 2012-07-20 20:29  
this makes me wonder if the world is really moving forward in accepting different views in life...

in the article "isms" are against the value of Islam... i have nothing against any religion... so why is this harsh criticISM so big on the dialogue of this prime minister... so sad to hear such harsh words coming from someone who should BE open minded since the country he leads is not made of robots... people are not made from the same mold... our minds do not work the same way...

another BIG step back... LGTB bashing... or any kind of bashing... something not nice coming from a leader...
13. 2012-07-20 20:34  
“If the nation falls into a state of chaos, who will safeguard these people?”...WHICH people?? Maybe this clown can make a trip to Topeka and get the Westboro "Baptist Chrch" to join him in this "Islamic Utopia" of his.
14. 2012-07-20 20:57  
#10 and she clearly wasn't fat.
15. 2012-07-20 21:09  
Well, these politician surely blinds by just "Religious Teachings" no offence, but aren't Rules created by humans? and Laws as well were created by humans as well. Politicians are all "Kiasi" and "Kiasu" why? cuz they just want to win the heart of others in the coming election. I bet these politicians wont give a speech in the Hatred if they have a son or daughter, or even grandchild who is openly gay or lesbian. Or will they send them to brainwash? or will they kick them out from house? Sometimes I am curious if the Religious did promote hatreds. And I wonder if these politicians ever been to school to learn science..? or they just get the Degrees in just answer True and False question.
16. 2012-07-20 21:11  
ah.. I am voting for NO one! BN wont get my vote.. who joins me? PAS.. definately NO! PKR NO NO.. DAP if they are not link to PAS and others I vote, but now is a BIG NO. If they falls, might ask them to refrain on what they think.
17. 2012-07-20 21:13  
ah lets vote fall independant.. ok?
18. 2012-07-20 21:22  
"A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation." James Freeman Clarke
19. 2012-07-20 21:27  
Poor guy with poor mind..
20. 2012-07-20 21:48  
Just look at the pic of this really sick man. He hates LGBT as he tries really hard to end the career of his bisexual political opponent.

Yeah malaysia has no place for LGBT but is a breeding ground for corrupt to the core politicians like him. The French court has enough tangible evidence to subpoena him any time now for taking multi million dollar bribes in the Scorpene submarine case. He is also linked with the murder of the mongolian model Atlantuya and the court has been swayed to cover up his identity as the murder mastermind.

Dont be bother with him as the world and many malaysians know about the skeletons in his cabinet and that his political days would be over soon!
21. 2012-07-20 22:07  
What was he talking about?
His grandpa is bisexual.
and one of his son or nephew can be bi or pure gay(cant help)
then he knows...
if he is really straight man(gentlemanly) will never say that...
people just ignored only,
WTF ?@#$%^&* he was talking? islam cant do homosex
out there have many many Islamic are doing opposite what he was saying..
He is mabuk crazy, because of he knows he is gonna to loose in next election...
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Interesting article!
How Japan keeps ISLAM at bay!
How Japan keeps Muslims, Jehaadis at bay

They are indeed a very evolved race. Something we Hindus sadly lack, in spite of having an equally great, or shall we say even better ethos than any other religion.

Have you ever read in the newspaper that a political leader or a Prime Minister, from an Islamic nation has ever visited Japan?

Have you ever come across in any newspaper that King of Iran or Saudi Arabia has visited Japan?

Japan, a Country keeping Islam at bay.

1. Japan has put strict restrictions on Islam and Muslims.

Ponder over the following facts:
a) Japan is the only nation that does not give citizenship to Muslims.

b) In Japan permanent residentship is not given to Muslims.
c) There is strong ban on the propagation of Islam in Japan.
d) In the University of Japan Arabic or any Islamic language is not taught.
e) One cannot import ‘Kuran’ published in Arabic language.

f) According to data published by Japanese government, it has given temporary residentship to only 2 lakhs Muslims, but they need to follow the Japanese Law of the Land. These Muslims should speak Japanese and carry their religious ritual in their homes.
g) Japan is the only country in the world having negligible number of embassies of Islamic countries.

h) Japanese people are not attracted to Islam at all.
i) Muslims residing in Japan are the employees of foreign companies.
j) Even today Visas are not granted to Muslim doctors, engineers or managers sent by foreign company.
k) In majority of the companies, it is stated in their laws that no Muslims should apply for the job.
l) Japan government is of an opinion that Muslims are fundamentalist and even in the era of globalization, they are not willing to change their Muslim laws.
m) Muslims can not even think about getting a rented house in Japan.
n) If anyone comes to know that his neighbor is a Muslim then the whole colony stays alert.
o) No one can start a Islamic or Arabic ‘Madarsa’ in Japan
p) There is no personal law in Japan.
q) If Japanese women marry a Muslim then she is banned.
r) According to Mr. Komico Yagi (Head of Department, Tokyo University) “There is a mind frame in Japan that Islam is narrow minded religion and one should stay away from it.”
s) Freelance journalist Mohammd Juber toured many Islamic countries after 9/11 incidence and at that time he even went to Japan. He found out Japanese are confident that extremist can do no harm in Japan.

Article Source http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/13946.html
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22. 2012-07-20 22:27  
The Game of Politics on the backs of minorities, this time sexual minorities. Shame.
23. 2012-07-20 22:37  
He looks like he's singing in the photo. His swansong presumably, since his career is nearly over.
24. 2012-07-20 22:42  
ahhhhhh another person who twists religion to their own purposes to better their election chances.... it would be laughable if it wasn't so sad.... time people matured up... religion should not seek strength from the persecution of ideas out of the box... tolerance is the secret to a religion that is truly all encompassing.... mature up....oh thats right, too many small minded people with their own agendas to ever get religions right...
25. 2012-07-20 23:00  
Sounds very familiar to me as I live in the US. Former president Bush was a big gay basher as are the religious right and Republicans. Bla, bla, bla. Here in San Diego it is Gay Pride Festival weekend. For the first time in US history active duty military personnel can wear their uniforms and march in the Gay Pride parade on Sunday. Hate can never win the day so let the politicians rant, they are all bottom feeders anyway, while the rest of us enjoy a wonderful glbt festival.
26. 2012-07-20 23:12  
And im stuck in Malaysia.... Been doing some thinking for some times.. Next year this time im leaving to europe for a while...I cant find the courage to continue staying in malaysia...
27. 2012-07-20 23:20  
I am so sorry my dear malaysian friend.
28. 2012-07-20 23:24  
There is nothing worse than a closeted gay man who does not want the world to know it. He will attack and belittle all who are like him.

Remember, he who shouts the loudest about something, usually is.


So pathetic.
29. 2012-07-20 23:32  
i love malaysia but i loathe this man
30. 2012-07-20 23:33  
What is so frightening to him?
nothing much, Bulan Puasa (fasting) meh
He scared of doing fasting meh, so complained and condemned loh.
Because every night he has being drinking and enjoying sex (dont know with males or females)? hahaha
(he has being cheating to the citizens)
Mulut yang cakap Tuhan Tuhan, Tangan yang panjang panjang..
Now he cant cheat to the GOD, God is coming down.
so he get stressed up, start blaming around...
31. 2012-07-20 23:43  
Because now is the bulan puasa(fasting month)
The God he believe is coming down, so become narrow space for him.
He has being drinking and have affairs in everyday with (males or females/ both i heard)
So he scared the God chopped of his small size Penis loh.
hahaha
32. 2012-07-20 23:53  
There is an old saying

The only thing worse than Religion, is Tradition.



I really feel bad for our brothers and sisters in Malaysia. I have been there 3 times in my life and find it a lovely country. But once you remove the same political party (they have been pretty much in charge since 1957) it will improve.

Malaysia suffers due to the religious bigotry that exists. Malaysia suffers due to the ethnic bigotry that exists. Tradition in this case is the worst thing that has happened to this lovely country. Just get rid of the Muslim majority and it will improve 100 fold.

Remember this is the same bunch of losers who wanted to out law TOMBOYS! Get rid of much of the Malay government and give the Ethnic Chinese there a shot. They cannot be as stupid as this. This man and his religious bigotry is an embarrassment to his country. If his religion is that screwed up he should get rid of that too. Although I do not see any great intellect there that has a fighting chance to do that

But I leave you with a quote that I have always loved and I see proved time and time again...

"Man and religion are incompatible"
33. 2012-07-21 01:12  
freedom for all! we will victory soon. important things is the world is freedom & more open. lets wat they saying. so sad for malaysia
34. 2012-07-21 01:13  
freedom for all! we will victory soon. important things is the world is freedom & more open. lets wat they saying. so sad for malaysia
35. 2012-07-21 01:36  
Logical analysis:

LGBTs, liberalism, pluralism are enemies of Islam.

LGBT exists therefore it is part of NATURE.
Liberalism is Humanity's road to freedom and equality.
Pluralism is the Diversity of Nature.

Therefore, Islam is the enemy of NATURE & HUMANITY!

I think Great Britain (ex-colonial master) should consider Malaysia's Independence annulled and UN should categorise them as subhuman or animal for the fact that Malay muslim hates freedom (liberalism) and humanity (pluralism).
36. 2012-07-21 03:27  
And he is the enemy of the nation and citizens!
37. 2012-07-21 03:33  
What a shame! What kind of Religion states that amongst many things,
Liberalism and Pluralism does not have a place in their Religion and country? Does anybody in that country understand the definitions of what the words mean? They simply mean FREEDOM and HUMANITY! If this religion or any religion in the world does not support freedom or humanity, what kind of people belong to this type of religion if they are not free or considered human? I agree with the phrase that phonograph78 (#32) said, "Man and religion are incompatible".
38. 2012-07-21 05:26  
oh malaysia. The world is moving forward, and you are moving backward. i'd release my msian passport anytime of any day. I am filled with disgust and pity for my (cough) country
39. 2012-07-21 05:27  
I think the enemy of Islam is people like him, a guy who is arrogant and self-righteous enough to say what "is and is not" for everyone as if he were a deity, and using it for his own advantage and ambition. But that's just my opinion.
40. 2012-07-21 06:01  
Another intellectual pygmy and mini-despot wanting to run the show for everyone within the confines of his own very narrow backward view of the world.

Intelligent leaders embrace difference and see the value of diversity, and someone in his position should be prepared to govern for all. His comments are divisive and villifying and are chants straight from the book of hate, perpetuating hate. He should be absolutely ashamed of himself, he is not fit to govern.

I always find it incredibly bemusing that those who consider themselves to be religious and people of faith, feel so incredibly threatened by a few minority secular interest groups (LGBTI community etc) who in essence simply seek to be treated with dignity and fairness under the law. Clearly something he would not be capable of conceptualising let alone give any thought to a proper hearing or debate on the matter.

Are these peoples belief in their faith such a thin veneer, so shaky and uncertain that they need the impost of draconian laws and life principles to control other secular members of their society??

The archane sodomy laws that still persist in Malaysia are a throw back to the British colonial period and interestingly are still embraced by conservative Islamic Malay values. Prior to arrival of the British, these laws did not exist. Time to throw off the shackles of the colonial past folks and to move into the future, and not just because some politician is frightened of having his political career delayed by faux and vexations sodomy charges and court hearings!!

The motivitation to be rid of them is that they are archane and have no place in a modern world or in a thriving pluaristic society.

Good Luck Malaysia!!
41. 2012-07-21 06:02  
Usually the biggest gay bashers, like Najib Razak, are closeted (secretly) homosexuals themselves. Occasionally they secretly sexually abuse little children. Someone should investigate Najib Razak.
42. 2012-07-21 06:21  
Seems that Najib Razak is desperate to get re-elected and instead of running the country effectively he sinks to polarization to boost his party's popularity.
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44. 2012-07-21 07:04  
In some countries what these fascist Malaysian politicians do is a hate crime that might land them in prison.
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46. 2012-07-21 08:28  
I have two friends from Malaysia living here in New Zealand - one is Malay and Islamic, and the other Malaysia-Chinese and Buddhist. They are a happy couple here and have had a civil union. If they went back to Malaysia to live they would be persecuted and likely imprisoned. The solution is to get bloody religion out of politics globally. All states should be secular, and religion should be submissive to democracy, not the other way round.

It's hard to rid Malaysia of a fundamentalist Islamic government. What I think needs to happen meantime is for all the non-Malay groupings to unite under one banner, and welcome the liberal thinking Muslims into their grouping and defeat the fundamenalists that way.

47. 2012-07-21 09:17  
What do we expect from Islamic country like Malaysia? It's typical and predictable about their stand on gay and woman issue.
Only bastard straight men are accepted into the society. They can have many wives(sex slaves) as they wish and treat them like a piece of trash.
It's a shocking and appalling attitude still existing in 21st century.
Sad.........
48. 2012-07-21 10:43  
I am sure Najib Razak is closeted gay. pretty sure!! hehe
49. 2012-07-21 11:05  
oops, btw, he looks like a dragqueen to me, seriously, no offense to my dragqueen brothers
50. 2012-07-21 11:13  
Religion exist after human and not vice-versa.respect human as who they are. It is a very low level n naive for politician to use religion to get more votes. They shud think beyond what they see.
51. 2012-07-21 11:17  
So much hate, if only he spend as much time learning from his religion properly, is that what God wants? Us to hate each other? Destroy and kills his creation? Not that I believe in it, if I have a God like this I would rather die and be nothing than be his slave to kill his own creation. If almighty God wants to have gay people killed or destroyed, God do not need anyone lower than him to do the job. He can do it himself Almighty. Obviously there is a reason why he is not doing it.
52. 2012-07-21 11:47  
to ignore or discount the human condition is irrational. to condemn and punish is inhuman,at best. Really, these are crimes against HUMANITY and should be treated as such. RESPECT EXISTENCE OR EXPECT RESISTANCE. And leave god out of the equation. You don't speak for anyone except yourself and your own narrow mindedness.
53. 2012-07-21 12:59  
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
54. 2012-07-21 14:02  
Ignorant. History records that Malaysia sent the first gay astronaut into space. Malaysian gays are not going back in the closet, silly man. They are already in orbit.
55. 2012-07-21 14:37  
I think people are overlooking the political realities.

No politician ever gives his real opinion at an election; they all say what they think the electorate wants to hear. The more their comments avoid dealing with matters of direct interest to the majority, the safer it is that to assume fear of the election result.

Most Malayians would not know a gay if they saw one - to them a gay is an effeminate man or a butch woman regardless of whether they are in fact homosexual.

Many leaders of religion are fearful of losing their influence over their followers as the followers become more interested in the material things that are now coming into their economic grasp and less in those parts of the religion that do not affect their daily lives.

Don't forget money is power and absolute power corrupts absolutely. This applies to both political and religious "leaders"
56. 2012-07-21 15:18  
I am a Malaysian and I'm left wondering where would all the LGBT community of Malaysia stand if we are left with no platform or grounds to stand on? Are we going back to the stone age? I think even the stone age do not discriminate to this extent.

A random quote i found..

"No government has the right to tell its citizens when or whom to love. The only queer people are those who don't love anybody."

We also pay taxes, help with the country's economy and we are basically human beings too. The only thing that matters is who we love and who love us. They should be more liberal and emulate our neighboring countries like Singapore and Thailand who do not discriminate against their citizen. Please correct me if i'm wrong. Appreciate knowledge.
57. 2012-07-21 15:27  
The problem with Najib is his self-expression without self-examination resulting in utter nonsense when it comes to explanation.
58. 2012-07-21 15:58  
Apparently corruption is against Islam too. Guess they didn't receive the memo.
59. 2012-07-21 16:12  
It's a shame. This unacceptable utterly statement comes (whenever) the general election is nearer. Typical. There are (however) many closeted LGBTA in Malaysia, to which their presence is recognisable. Such media headlines/statement is purely politically motivated.

As much as I love Malaysia, nonetheless, I do not want to live in the shadow of fear, doubt and hypocrisy. Perhaps, it's timely to consider being an asylum in Britain due to Malaysian government's strand/stance in LGBTA persecution.

Pondering.
60. 2012-07-21 19:47  
I see here a vivid example of how a simple idea is corrupted into massive vortex. Religion was invented to control the masses and the weak minded. The idea that a man up in the sky is in charge of your existence and operation, is pretty simple minded to put it lightly. Religion has proved over the last few thousand years that it is an easy and usually profitable way to control others.

Now this simple idea of controlling the less intelligent has fallen to those who are themselves less intelligent. This creates a mess of the magnitude that we see here. That government is run by religion and religion is run by government. A truer circle jerk was never better devised. It is very reminiscent of a group of circus elephants each holding the tail of the previous. The end result is they go no where.

I think this circus clown needs to hang up his nose and go terrorize someone else. He is an embarrassment to his country and his people. Sadly this is the actions of religion. Now maybe we can all see that this man made idea is really showing its age.
61. 2012-07-21 19:47  
OMG. I love Malaysia and it`s people, but shame on you Mr. PM.
62. 2012-07-21 20:56  
"At the latest event, Najib also said the government supports human rights, but only within the boundaries of Islam."

Obviously he must not have read the universal declaration of human right yet. Or he believes that non-Islams are not even human beings?? Then he should at least save and let Rohingya people to resettle in the country! I am really sorry for 'decent' Muslims out there. It's you guys though who can work with us to change their ill mentality!
63. 2012-07-21 21:49  
seriously PM

do you forgot with your own cased?
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66. 2012-07-21 22:31  
how dare him!!!
67. 2012-07-21 22:40  
What a repulsive man, and how backwards his comments.

While ordinary Malaysian people are as lovely (and as horrible) as anyone else from any country - and there are a Lot of lovely Malaysian students in Dublin, Ireland, for example, who seem pretty nice - the Malaysian government would be better advised trying to address the country's international image - which is Not as a modern, progressive country, but as a restrictive, intoleranta and isolationist society that cracks down on those that are different - not just in terms of sexual identity.

You can run as many expensive "Lovely Malaysia..." TV ads as you like, with happy Caucasian couples cavorting along deserted sands - but This is the way that Westerners, at least, tend to think of Malaysia: "Nah, not there... let's go to Thailand instead!"

His kind of strident comments are the opposite of Westerners' ways of thinking, as Western societies still value their religions, faith, cultures and 'values' - and often hypocritically so - but at least are more focused on creating inclusive, tolerant societies.

My own country - Ireland - probably doesn't register on Any Malaysian's thoughts, let alone anyone in Malaysia's government. However, I should point out that Ireland - once seen as a purely Catholic country - has by and large accepted Gay people, for example, without any controversy, with Civil Partnerships also there for gay people (and with the Government trying to work out its duty to gay marriage). Although we have a Long way to go still for true, normal equality, the Fact is that homosexuality is Not an issue, here, for most people - men are Not out in the streets fucking dogs and children, and the churches are Not full of Liberals splashing petrol about with lit matches, trying to kill God.

Opposing 'liberalism' and 'homosexuality' etc is like opposing gravity, or electromagnetism, or photosynthesis. (Not to mention the rather notable amount of gay Malaysians abroad, who speak bitterly of how Their country and leaders treat them.)

It's for these kind of reasons that, sorry, people aren't interested in visiting Malaysia so much from here at least, as 'decadent' Westerners prefer a touch less naked intolerance, oppression and bigotry with their holidays and travelling... :-/
68. 2012-07-21 23:50  
unfortunately narrow minded people are everywhere, not just in Malaysia...but, if Malaysia truly Asia, maybe i should change my race into something else...the image of one person ruin the entire race...
69. 2012-07-22 01:57  
I thought it was just me, but I absolutely agree with phonograph78 (#60). A simple idea has corrupted into a massive vortex. I can't understand why anyone would want to be governed by something else or someone else, let alone an ignorant person like the PM? In 6 months, I wonder if he would remember his intolerant speech. By the way, great analogy with the elephants.
70. 2012-07-22 02:24  
Many of Malaysia's cleverest scientists and innovators are gay, have left, and continue to leave such an intolerant, corrupt, narrow-minded Victorian society.

Serves Malaysia right.
71. 2012-07-22 06:47  
This man frightens the hell out of me. I visited Malaysia two times, the last being about 8 years ago. It was not that bad. Now, it seems, radical Islam is taking hold in so many parts of the world.

I fear for the lives of my friends there when a leader is so anti gay. He reminds me of Hitler.

If things worsen worldwide, you can count on the LGBT community to be the scapegoats.

Take care you wonderful LGBT people in Malaysia. I am thinking of you
72. 2012-07-22 07:27  
najib isn't hitler. he's a second-rate slimebucket with a nifty cocksucker moustache, a love for opportunism and whatever kickbacks may come his way.

since just about everything else he says is a lie, this probably is too.
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74. 2012-07-22 09:16  
I like traditional Malay songs and Indonesian gamelan music. However, I am very very reluctant to tour Malaysia or Indonesia. Why? There are too many radical people over there voicing their so-called fundamental religious beliefs and treating all who do not belong to their religion as hostile, harmful, treacherous, threatening their cultures and religions etc. etc. They have thousands and thousands of mosques and yet cannot tolerate the building of one church. Btw, I am a free-thinker. I get pissed off by such comments and outbreaks of xenophobia and bigotry.
75. 2012-07-22 11:15  
I have had a lot to say on this issue and thank you for the kind comments received on my posts. But I am an advocate for free speech. I believe everyone should have the opportunity to experience and take advantage of this fundamental right of man. The words and philosophy of John Locke fall right into this bubbling cauldron of narrow mindedness brought forth by this silly little man.

For you see the right of free speech also comes with responsibility. For while you should have the right of free speech, you are not always protected from what you say. This is very important. I see this here .

This is the same group that tried to outlaw tomboys. I am sorry that is more asinine than almost anything I can fathom. But not content with this little blurb of foolishness the Prime Minister has let out with this mid-evil tirade on what makes for a happy country. On what makes his backward understandings of what makes government work. Religion has no place in government, and government has no reason to be involved in religion. One is fact, one is theory. But allowing himself to speak on authority of a theory, he had damaged fact in government.

He has every right to say that, and now that he has, the back swell that returns from his actions will be rather overwhelming.

For the words of Abraham Lincoln ring out in my ears as I see what has happened here. Lincoln put free speech and the public understands of it in a simple a powerful way and it fits to a tee here.

" It is far better to be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all the doubt".

The Prime Minister has shown he has neither the wisdom or the intellect to follow those simple words. They will come in time to haunt him as there is nothing to protect ones free speech from its abuse. There is a saying that you are what you eat, and for desert you get a fresh and cold serving of what you have said.

Revenge is best served cold. It will as many fire back at the intellectually challenged leader of a confused and outdated government, who's best days are far behind them and who's future seems more certain for a history book, rather than the modern dialog of people and nations.
76. 2012-07-22 12:22  
What is the difference between Najib and Hitler in the photos? Only colour photography. The similarities are too scary!
77. 2012-07-22 12:23  
What is the difference between Najib and Hitler in the photos? Only colour photography. The similarities are too scary!
78. 2012-07-22 12:30  
"ASEAN governments are not liberal democracies, nor do they claim or desire to be. Stability, an attractive investment climate and economic growth are their priorities. Expecting the ASEAN countries to become free societies may be impractical at this stage, but the current liberal momentum could usher in substantial change." — East Asia Forum
Chayut Setboonsarng.
Add to this a distorted/twisted interpretation of religion, the high-walled concept of 'Asian Values' which are no more Asian than my Husky dog is Irish but rather universal (post-industrial revolution), and what you land with is a basket-case society unable to discern the right from the wrong, the reality from the absurd, paralysed by fear (largely entertained on a daily basis).
If the govt of Malaysia believes that homosexuality is unnatural, I'd retort that a single party having governed a country for fifty-five years by hook and by crook is monstrously again (the betterment of) human nature.
But Najib never read the Gettysburg address, I guess.
Have pity on Malaysia.
79. 2012-07-22 13:30  
hes such a dumbass, he hangs photos of himself around KL like some sort of kim jong il bullshit! Its like hes starting a personality cult! and now this...

So glad i left Malaysia last year...
80. 2012-07-22 13:36  
this P.M. razak is as bad as the previous mohammed!
their titles should be b(owel)m(ovement), such inflexible muslim dogma cannot be tolerated in the modern world!!!!! Get rid of these troglodytes!!!!!^^
81. 2012-07-22 16:23  
not surprised, that's why Malaysia is progressing slowly in every aspect.
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83. 2012-07-22 19:55  
@21 What a lot of nonsense... I am not a great beliver in Wikipedia but at least it records facts that can be verifiable...
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85. 2012-07-22 23:30  
It's so halarious how malaysia is so obsessed with selling itself as a cultural hub and ideal tourist destination; constantly PRing itself as progressive. The same goes for singapore. Just watch all of those stupid commercials of rich, happy ladies shopping, and sweeping views of the fancy skyline as though shopping malls and futuristic buildings constitute a culture. Assembly line, government commisioned art, casinos, and an infinite number of Zara stores do not give cultural substance to a locale. Only compassion and human rights can do that. Do not financially support Malaysia. Do not financially support Singapore. Do not travel to these places, because they do not deserve our money, which they so crave through tourism.
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86. 2012-07-23 00:44  
“If the nation falls into a state of chaos, who will safeguard these people?”

You're fucking kidding me, right?
87. 2012-07-23 01:41  
Dear Malaysian PM

God made me. Is God deviant?

What are you afraid of from gay people? We are but the same as you. We have fears and joys. Our fear is you will lock us up, beat us with our (our) Police, or taught us for who we are (not for what we do to others, just who we are).

This is not the words of Islam; I know because I fuck a Muslim boyfriend and he just cries mmmmm mmm. These are the words of an violent, angry, sad man. Wish you peace Mr PM of all the people who live in your land.

John
88. 2012-07-23 02:07  
Hello no.74.
Indonesia is totally different than malaysia. Malaysia is a one of those great country who has nothing else to talk about, then they talk about gays.

Indonesia? you never been here dont you, at least being gay, trans, or lesbian is not illegal in indonesia. you have no idea, how open indonesia to gay lately. and I notice there is plenty of malaysian, arabian, indian muslim gay who migrate to indonesia (jakarta and bali) why? because we're so much open than their country.


89. 2012-07-23 02:31  
This is election talk and as in Egypt, Syria , some states in the USA and other places , gays are used as an electioneering strategy. All the enemies of Anwar will like this...so will the Mullahs and the right wing Christian leaders....They have clout with their more ignorant and scared members.. So.the PM gathers the flock to his side. It is dishonest and potentially damaging to the country. Let the world's pink dollars show and the world's voices of liberalism and democracy speak . Hypocracy,denial of human rights and dignity , and promotion of hatred , should not be the way to lead a country.
90. 2012-07-23 04:59  
I'm pleased to be an enemy of islam and all religions!

Far too much injustice veiled in pointless rhetoric.
91. 2012-07-23 08:49  
welllllllllllllllllllll, it seems that maylasia has its own version of
the U.S.A's southern baptist preacher, redneck, republican..
ultra right wingers who will tell you that God loves everyone
except those who are not like them.. malaysians families are
just like families in anyother country they all have gay people
or relatives in them ... why does the PM continue to focus on
putting down human beings for being born gay... it is always
boing to be 1 step forward and 2 steps back ...but we still
keep trying for inclusion
92. 2012-07-23 09:30  
what the hell
how i become an enemy of that
i do nothing to them
93. 2012-07-23 12:31  
all these 'isms' are against ISlaM

He sounds desperate. Divide and conqueror, blame the devil.

When did GLBT become such a threat to the stability if a nation? Well it would be if it grew up and started acting like one.
94. 2012-07-23 14:43  
Not making me want to visit Malaysia at ALL!
95. 2012-07-23 16:35  
nah ! shame on u. clean ur own ass first
96. 2012-07-23 17:07  
well the more Gov ppl against us, the more we will step out to speak through the world... and also the election vote surely..
i believe... when a person hate us that much... in future his son or grandson... will be "one to fight for.. LBGT right!
97. 2012-07-23 23:27  
Najib Razak the womanizer and murderer on a cultural crusade against sexual minorities? He IS the real enemy of Islam.
98. 2012-07-23 23:42  
He needs to grow up !
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101. 2012-07-24 07:54  
Not surprising coming from a
1. Son of a civil war criminal (incited racial killings of ethnic Chinese minorities in 1969)
2. Son of the NEP founder (making non-muslims 2nd and 3rd class citizens)
3. Murderer
4. Sex offender
5. Corrupt swine (with his filthy piggy wife) raping the country inside-out
6. Hypocritical delinquent/ flip-flopper
7. Racist and bigoted trash
102. 2012-07-24 07:55  
when i visited that nice country first time many years ago,i was astonished to meet so many muslim men, asking for sex with me! but they all didn't call themself gay or bi! their explanation: how can i be bi or gay, i am married and have kids... sex is just fun... so its all just shouting for political survive...
103. 2012-07-24 10:34  
nobody wants to suck his dick that's why he hate gays. he's stinky old fart!
104. 2012-07-24 10:41  
ok, enough now, can we get the old fart off the front page of our website. I hate seeing his ugly face every time I log on to Fridae.
105. 2012-07-24 11:14  
go to singapore then!
106. 2012-07-24 16:46  
he is so fuck off
107. 2012-08-04 10:12  
While we are at talking about getting rid of idiots, let's also censure that Muslim-bashing and Muslim-hating vituperate old fartly gentleman denseus @ 3, who declares that ALL Muslims, and only Muslims are radicals, and who has no shame in bashing Muslims at every opportunity, and who still chooses to remain in a Muslim country lusting over Muslim boys; as well as the idiotly gentlemen @ 90; @93; @32; and the super-idiotly gentleman @ 35, who could very well pair up with denseus and make beautiful babies. Get your facts straight - at least that if not anything else. Muslims and Islam are not the enemies! It's the politicians and religious fanatics and idiotly gentlemen, such as the denseus and his followers, who flame the fire of hate. These are the dangerous hate-mongering mischief-makers.
108. 2012-08-04 10:16  
Forgot to mention another one of those gentlemen - @ 47, as well as another @37.

@ 21 quotes a militantly Hindu nationalist source to augment his argument against Muslims. That is like reading Hitler as an authority on Jewish issues and agreeing to his 'solution' to the 'Jewish question'. Or better still, like agreeing to Pakistan writing a scathing expose on India. #crap
Comment edited on 2012-08-04 14:04:11
109. 2012-08-04 10:27  
The unenlightened lot that I have mentioned above should perhaps read @ 24, who said it correctly - "...another person who twists religion to their own purposes to better their election chances...." That aptly describes Tun Najib... As well, this lot should read @ 5 "... the religion itself is peaceful,only those who practice it twisted its meaning to serve their own purpose ..."
Comment edited on 2012-08-04 10:59:05
110. 2012-08-05 00:40  
How to vote based on LGBT..... no party gonna protect the rights of LGBT in Malaysia.
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114. 2013-10-24 21:35  
LGBTs, liberalism, pluralism are enemies of Islam
Yes, it can be accepted because Religion is enemy of God.

Religion want to be as God
No.....we can not accept that
Because that is character of satan.
Satan always want to be look perfect because satan make competition with God.

LGBT will always never been perfect because we are LGBT is Human, not satan.

But, Hey..you are malaysian
you should not fight each other, bad or good people.
Because you only made fighting by religion.
Malaysian should be strong.
I know that malaysian made mistake because you are growing.
Religion always dig your mistakes to make you fighting each other.
Religion will never stop to dig your mistake to fight each other, to hate each other.
But we are Human, we are not religion, everybody made mistake
and we should forgive each other. wake up each other.
Every countries should be alert.
Religion will always dig your mistake to make you fighting.
The kindness of religion just camouflage or cosmetic.

LGBT malaysian must forgive malaysia moslem because they only victims of Religion that come from middle east. They are laughing now hearing malaysian fighting trigered by Middle east religion.
Stop..LGBT should not hate moslems in malaysia.
Malaysia Moslem just victims of people from middle east who want more power and invasion.and money :-)

Malaysian will not make chaos
but Religion will make chaos
You must think positive to malaysia people.
That they will not make chaos in any situation
but Religion/islam will make chaos in many situation
because concept of religion is to dig mistakes

You see group of penguin? even when no food.
do they make chaos?
No..only other animals make chaos..that is religion

Najib Rajak, paid by middle east to get power by sacrifice malaysia people, and make malaysian hate each other

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